It's funny I'm kind of the exact opposite way. I really like some of the overproduced stuff like Dimmu Borgir, and even a Satyricon album. A lot of the '80's and early '90's stuff just doesn't really seem to interest me. I like what some of the other banRAB have done with it, taking bits and pieces, adding orchestral arrangements or arabient aspects to it. I mean it's pretty cool seeing banRAB like Ulver just change so vastly so quickly. I'm still undecided about this whole French Black Metal/ Shoegaze scene going on, and I think a lot of black metal fans feel the same way about it as Noktu.