A great speech from John K.

Now we know he claims autorship for every cartoon written on storyboards made after R&S. Somehow, this doesn't surprise me at all.

And BTW, McCracken had concieved the PPG before R&S premiered.

As LFV mentioned, I'd really like to see the guy appearing in a live convention.
 
Sorry to bump this thread, but a few of us here over at a pro-Spumco forum, which will go unnamed :p ; are discussing this very topic and one poster linked to this. I will say, Charles Adler seems to be hated by John K. who then liked Cow and Chicken and others with Mr.Adler's voice..no one mentioned ahosw Mr.K and me don't that much care for as a show CA voiced lead on, Tiny Toons...I know that the name John Kricfalusi, etc. exemplies a man who brings up heated arguments to the point of the fire deparment vehicles coming to exthinguish the internet flames, but I thought four years later after linking to this post to put a few cents in.

What made R&S for me and others was the reivival of a lot of canned music [this also involved records of Raymond Scott only some decades after Warner cartoon orchestras "live"-recorded his stuff..which has a lot in common with the more musical stock themes shared by Hanna-Barbera and Spumco..e.g., Roger Roger, Jack Shaindlin, Phil Green, Van Phillps,etc., not to mention the differently patterned small combo canned stuff R&S borrowed after everyone on television fifty years ago popularized it... FRANKLY Ren and Stimpy reminds me, musical direction-wise, a lot of Bob Clampett's old Beany and Cecil late 50s animated cartoons, what with everything from original songs to canned music to0 reboots of older songs withd iffgerent lyrics to classical music, and R&S, paying tribute to both Clampett and other WB directors, paid additional tribute by, although using recordings, using Ray Scott tunes to boot.]

BTW If you like his work remotely, and you have a "Blogger/Google" account, his former "ALL KINDS of stuff", now known as simply "John K.Stuff", blog, is still around and provides interesting insights to the decline of teleivison Hanna-Barbera, and another pet topic of John K.----character construction,. THe George Liquor designs are hilarious.]

Happy Happy! Joy Joy!

[sorry, couldn't resist.]
 
*claps*

It's really sad that John Kricfalusi pretty much single-handedly saved kids cartoons [The Simpsons is an adult cartoon], and he hasn't made one cent. He also pioneered the modern webtoon. This man is brilliant, and I hope that his new cartoon goes well.
 
Maybe he'd make money if his post-projects upon being fired from his own Ren & Stimpy were actually good and not full of lame gags & ridiculous gross out humor.
 
He's really annoying in that way, yeah he may have done some things for animation but he gives himself way too much credit for crap. And then he's solomn and way less opinonated when he face to face with the real deal.
May I just say I classify that as an annoying person.
 
Okay...I love John K.'s work on the first Ren and Stimpy series. But I dislike his huge ego. If it wasn't for him, there would be no PPGs? According to an interview done a few months ago with McCracken, the shorts program actually HALTED production of the series. The show could have premiered as early as 1994 (though he admitted that it was for the best).
 
What did Sponge Bob have to do with R&S? Rocko's Modern Life already had their own wild style that was later adapted to Sponge Bob. Just because Rocko came shorty after R&S didn't mean Joe Murray and [size=-1]Steve Hillenburg[/size] didn't have their own creative ideas.

And yes Craig did think up the PPG's before John K. made R&S.
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Exactly. While John K spends a lot of time feeling sorry for himself, you have other animators who don't let setbacks keep them from pursuing other jobs in animation.
 
While I do give the man credit for all that he's done to help change the face of the animation industry, I still don't respect him for slamming other animator's ideas that don't relate to his own. John, good work on making cartoons funny again but don't think for one second that you're God!
 
Because we don't like him.



Yeah... I don't buy it. He did make money, he was fired for being late to meetings, and he's done nothing but ***** about the fact that animation didn't die along with him. His constantly taking credit for every TV show on air, coupled with his constant bashing of several shows he does'nt like (including anime( just make him sound like a jackass.



I am sorry, because there is a very good chance that you are a smart, kind person and that this post makes a valid point, but I stopped listening at the words "pro spumco".
 
The nice thing about the internet is it will wait for you.
If it takes 9 years for you to get in the mood for a rant it will just be waiting there, biding it's time.

The thing is when someone goes off on a rant like that it makes people feel like not giving him all the credit he does deserve.



But where did this come from?
Is this in response to an interview of some sort or something he posted publicly?
 
Who's Bruce Timm, then? Tom Ruegger? Greg Weisman? J. Michael Straczynski?

John K made two great seasons of Ren & Stimpy, but these four men and their series will always come first to my mind as those who were responsible for making good cartoons on the air again.
 
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