A great speech from John K.

It's because it's true.

I've argued enough about John K to say anything more about him. He's great at what he does, and he's contributed so much to the animation biz. But he's a jerk. There are tons of people in the biz who have also contributed to animation that don't brag. He's not the only one who brought animation back to life in the early 90's.
 
QFT. He's a great cartoonist, but I really don't think he should be so snobbish considering that the only idea of his that really even worked was Ren and Stimpy. And even the uncut version of that didn't last long.

I'll be honest, yes, he has a likable, zany, twisted cartoon style that many cartoonists have been influenced by HOWEVER, his story ideas leave a lot to be desired for. Because his ideas are so simplistic, he really hasn't gotten any good ideas past Ren and Stimpy. I can see how that makes sense though, as his influences of Looney Tunes weren't necessarily that in depth with plots or stories.

And as much as I love anachronisms, vintage, and retro things... he needs to stop living in the 50's. XD
 
Thing is, if he was more successful than John K, he would actually have entitlement in his favor. Only real success John has is a show which was only good because he couldn't go all out.
 
You know, "stupid" characters and fart jokes have been around for a long, long time, way back before John K. was ever born. You're saying Mighy B! uses "sterotypes" seems, more like a problem you have with the show then a way it was influenced by John K. Don't misunderstand me; I don't doubt that both shows were influenced by R&S, (I don't doubt, in fact, that several shows were; though not nearly as many as he claims), I simply don't see how they are "rip-offs" of John K.'s work. The writing style and characters, at least, are nothing alike.
 
Well, when I said stereotype I ment that in an improper way, I wasn't reffering to races as much as some of the unoriginal characters, now that I think about it more only the extreme expressions look like Ren an Stimpy work, the rest is fairly generic for todays TV. I swear that Mighty B look just like one of my own characters, but rather than accuse people like what John K does, I just sat down and relised that it was just the bulky round glasses. Thanks to his coloring, Mightys dog looks like the dog off Teachers pet. Is there anything else to say about John K that we haven't? Whoever questioned why we make topics about his speeches had a good point, thankfully most of us don't see Johns viewpoints. If John wants anything more to brag about he should look at what his fans are doing to Cartoon Critique, when it was working it was getting a flood of comic book cover studies which I didn't like because they weren't original drawings. John consistently preaches that everyone needs to know old cartoon principles, he tells everyone to copy old comiic book covers to learn them, they do so and send them to him, but then for some reason CC gets flooded with them. CC is more about drawing your own stuff or fan art and getting a critique, not asking how well you copied a cover.
 
What does that have to do with not bragging? The real reason he can't brag is because he's dead.

Anyway, Osamu Tezuka has certainly been more successful than John K. ever will be. John K. may have reinvogarated an industry, Osamu Tezuka pretty much started it.
 
Agreed and the styles, though certainly influenced, aren't complete rip-offs of his style. Writing wise, they are vastly different and there are different art directions that both of those shows seem to take.
 
From what I've gathered when he was alive he barely bragged, he didn't gloat or say "So many people are copying now! Without me they'd be in the stone age!".
 
Doug Lawrence (a.k.a. Mr. Lawrence) worked on the second season of Ren & Stimpy, and went on to be a storyman and voice of Filburt Shellbache for Rocko's modern life and later a storyman and voice of Sheldon J. Plankton for SpongeBob SquarePants. Also, in a seminar at the muesum of Television and Radio, the cast and crew of SBSP give props to John K. for helping revive the storyboard system of cartoon production.


1979: John K. creates Ren and Stimpy

1980s: Craig McCracken creates PowerPuff Girls prototypes on a birthday card

1989 (and possibly 1988): Spumco is formed, and they sell Ren & Stimpy to Nick

1990: Production on R&S pilot "Big House Blues" is finished

1991: Craig McCracken begins work on Whoopass Girls cartoon at CALArts; Ren & Stimpy primere

1992: Whoopass Stew: "A Sticky Situation" is finished and shown at CALArts

1994: John K. and the execs at Cartoon Network start What A Cartoon!, Craig McCracken (working for Hanna-Barbera at the time) sends in his WhoopAss Girls idea, but the name is changed to PowerPuff Girls.

1995: PowerPuff Girls cartoon "Meat Fuzzy Lumkins" priemeres

1998:PPG series primeres.
 
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