You're going to Hell because you don't go to church!!!

FellingLonely

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Along with what DG and Hrly said, a Church is not the building. It is the people that gather together. You don't have to be in a church building. At school I go to a house where a bunch of believers come together and worship. We are a church. We meet on Wednesday nights too, we are still a church there. At home I meet in a Church building, but it's only because there are so many people, but the college and career group meets on Mondays, and we are a church there.

a building has 4 walls, a roof, and a ceiling...but it's practically useless if the people don't come. A church goes wherever it will, but thankfully, our building lets us all be together at the same time.
 
we do the easter bunny at our house, but it's for the kids. they love it. i still get a basket because i fiend for chocolate around easter lol

as for santa, same thing, it's for the kids. i still get presents from santa because we think it is more fun that way.

it doesn't mean im a pagen, they are just fun things we like to do for the kids on the holidays. (not saying you were calling me one, i'm just adding my 2 cents of course lol)
 
Highlighted what i agree with....

1st point....I totally agree...

2nd and 3rd point...valid positions and can be backed with minimal effort at least in the KJV





Catholics subsumed pagan holidays and rituals to keep the illiterate and poor in line...I consider Catholicism a related but different Religion than Christianity...Like Judaism and Islam are different {Put a gun to my head...I pray to Jesus: A Catholic would pray to Mary first in that situation IMO}...I don't practice them either:indiff:
 
More than likely she does.

I wasn't raised with the concept of easter bunnies or santa, and only gained that aspect of my socialization in public schools through "educational activities." I don't see what I gained from doing a Christmas themed crossword puzzle or making a beard out of cotton balls, but whatever. School as a normalization tool is quite effective.
 
That graph looks pretty sketchy, at least in respect to the size of Satan's bar. I mean, a basic sizing ratio would suggest that Satan killed far more than 10 people when comparing his bar to the size of God's two million.

Further, I would love to see your source, mister. :rolleyes:
 
You're kind of missing the point here.

What Im trying to say is that religion is full of things taht really just dont make much sense to begin with. They get explained by various nonsensical methods and justified and rationalized in a million different ways by millions of different people. What we have in question is one person saying that their particular interpretation (As I've just demonstrated, is one in a million, even among the same flavor of the same major religion) supercedes all others and is correct above all others. This is narcissistic and foolish. You point this out by coming up with an equally inane, preposterous accusation that highlights this. End result: You pick on them for worshipping trees on the winter solstice, because that's how you (for the sake of argument) choose to interpret it. Or you pick on them for carrying on pagan fertility rituals involving eggs and rabbits.

It's not about saying that those things are always enequivocally pagan. It's just that they can be interpreted that way just as easily as any other way, and this fool needs to stop imposing his own bullshit on other people.
 
Um...when I hit "enter" at the end of the first sentence, that's where I stopped referencing your comment.

I never said my view of religion was better, just that it was different from the norm for the stereotypical "Christian." I was simply stating a fact, as I had never been introduced to the idea of "Christmas" and the "Easter Bunny" until I went to school. I found that interesting because it was in school (a supposedly non-religious based institution) that I encountered more people pointing out the fact that my lack of knowledge of their "interpretation" of religion reflected my own ignorance. That is nothing short of imposing religion on students, especially when it is different from the shared experience of the majority.

Ex). Teacher: Write 5 sentences about Christmas?
Me: Uh...What's Christmas?
Teacher: You know what Christmas is...Santa brings all the girls and boys gifts if they've been good...etc.
Me: Who is Santa?
Teacher: Are you saying you don't celebrate Christmas?
Me: Yes.
Teacher: Are you Christian?
Me: Yes.
Teacher: Then you celebrate Christmas.
Me: No.

That was followed by the teacher calling my parents because for some reason they thought I was lying and just didn't want to do the assignment. :rolleyes:

I'd be the last person to say that my view of religion is better/more informed than someone else's...especially because I'm really hoping Jesus is a shape shifter that takes on multiple forms (human, alien, animal, elemental, etc.)

Avidity: No, I'm not Jehovah's Witness.
 
Yes, and that's all Im specifically referring to. Im saying that it doesnt matter that some Christians dont partake in all the holidays - that's not the point. I explaind quite clearly in the last post what I was getting at the first time, to which you retorted "not all Christians do that"... That's fine, but that's also not the point. You're not the one imposing your own interpretation onto other people. I'm telling the OP to impose a hypothetical interpretation onto the person that gave her the attitude. That's it. If that person thinks it's such a big deal to go to church to the point she wants to air her grievances over it, I very much doubt they refuse to celebrate christmas/easter.
 
It seemed that you were over generalizing and that's why I made the initial comment.

As to which holidays are/are not celebrated, I was using my own experience to illustrate that the dominate religion is viewed as normal/right and that there is a consensus that is socialized for what that version of religion should be (ie. needs a building, prays to Jesus, prays, meditates, how often is too little/not enough, which holidays are practiced to meet religious affiliation requirements, are there requirements, etc.)

A simple, "You're not God, so you have no authority to tell me where I'm going," would suffice imo. Unless you like arguing with insanity, as they would likely not get or possibly take the hypothetical to be offensive.

See: fractured/fragmented realities
 
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