X Factor V New Faces/opp Knocks

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Bookworm24

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How do they match up? It's hard to believe Cowell &co are not aware of their predecessors. So, is Tony Hatch or Mickey Most in the 70s or Hughie green in the 60s and 70s in any way less effective at discovering talent in their time? I don't believe so. Therefore, as far as I can see, all of these are successively serving the same purpose in their time, and are no better or worse effectively than each other at unearthing talent which wouldn't come out if TV had never been invented. ergo, TV timefilling, all of them.
 
Maybe because the previous two programmes were about the finding new talent and not the egos of the "judges". You got 4 minutes of each contestant in a half hour - hour show, not long drawn out sob stories, family visits, and judges looking seriously into camera and saying "jonny has got to nail that song this week, he knows it's his last chance, he must deliver or it is all over..................." :rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
Exactly. The acts used to sing a whole song in those days. Amazing how they remembered the worRAB!
No shouting and clapping while they sing either. Gets on my nerves.
 
They weren't hyped in the same way even though Op Knocks attracted over 20 million viewers. Also Hughie Green sort of lacked the sex appeal of Cheryl Cole.
 
Because Op Knocks and New Faces were actual genuine talent searches, whilst X Factor has managed to prove it is possible to produce a programme faker than pro-wrestling.
 
In the "old days", it would go like this -
The singer says "I'm going to sing my song", the audience would applaud, then the song would start.
BUT NOW -
"I'm going to sing my song". They start to sing, and after 10 worRAB or so, the screaming banshees go mental.
What's THAT all about ?
 
Andy Birkenhead said:
In the "old days", it would go like this -
The singer says "I'm going to sing my song", the audience would applaud, then the song would start.
BUT NOW -
"I'm going to sing my song". They start to sing, and after 10 worRAB or so, the screaming banshees go mental.
What's THAT all about ?[/QUOTE]

The audience being there at the audition stage is purely for exploitation purposes, so the judges react to the jeers, [as Louis with his two finger gesture to the crowd after Jedward stint]. It's all manufactured and gross.
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They are all great in their time but X Factor is a much more successful total phenomenon because:

- we get to know the acts over several months if they survive through multiple performances plus we see endless VT clips of their 'real lives', on the old shows you had to virtually totally decide about someone from scratch in 3 seconRAB flat, you never got the Susan Boyle phenomenon or the dark horse coming from behind, because it was all instant judgement. A week later you couldn't remember any of them, except the occasional winner.

- On XF see a wide cross-selection of the first auditions from good to bad to appalling, you only saw a few hand-picked best of the acts on the old shows

- X Factor has an interactive public vote, way back in the old shows it was even more rigged than it is now and was just down to a TV panel

- Tony Hatch beats Simon Cowell hanRAB down at unpleasant, scathing criticism, he was actually much more constructively critical, but then he is a real music lover and composing genius
 
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