WSj Report: Nokia CEO Considers Big Shake-Up on Friday 11th

That's not true, it's just that they had a minimum 1GHz stipulation, WP7 can very easily run on newer hardware. Also, the constraints are a strength. Single resolution was one of the things that made S60v2 so strong, and multiple resolutions is what screwed S60v3 so badly. Having the internal components all be the same or within the same range means from a developer standpoint WP7 is as easy to work with as iOS, but from a consumer standpoint you can go buy a phone with a good interface and developer backing AND get the high end camera and RF performance you'd only get in a Nokia. Having the updates be standardised also means that everyone with a WP7 device gets upgrades at the same rate, instead of the hell that Symbian, Android and WinMo users had to deal with.



That can be a good or a bad thing. Google wasn't even willing to support the Android marketplace on tablets because the software wouldn't run well on them. MeeGo is also completely different on each device. It seems there are some common underpinnings, but there are two different versions of MeeGo for smartphones being developed right now, so it's really nothing more than a Linux distro with an interface developed for non-desktop devices. webOS definitely seems to be the best as far as scalability goes, the TouchPad demos look good, and show that they're doing a good job with resolution agnostic software. WP7 certainly doesn't scale as well as webOS, but in comparing it to MeeGo - there really isn't much more similarity between MeeGo for Netbooks and MeeGo for smartphones than there is betweend Windows Phone 7 and Windows 7.



WP7 already has a shared ecosystem with the Xbox 360 and Windows 7 through XNA - and it isn't a stretch to think that Kinect could get integrated into future Windows Phone models.



Yes, but not all ecosystems have to look the same. Apple is certainly branching out well with the type of hardware they make, HP is doing just as good a job, and RIM is sticking within their field. Microsoft's field is actually quite a bit broader at this point, as you can see looking at the fact that it includes smartphones, desktops, laptops and game consoles.



You mean like Sony? They're certainly not storming through everything right now, but they're still doing quite well. Nokia needs to keep working on S40 - because it's a platform that works and doesn't crash (like Symbian lately), so they still have the low end market covered. If they hadn't screwed up Symbian so much over the past few years, and had updates going already rather than just introducing them with S^3, they could keep doing something with Symbian. As is, it's too late, because nobody really wants to get a new one with promises of future upgrades. You can't scale Android or webOS down to the range of S40 either, so they will have to split things up or give up a market segment entirely. S40 for low end, WP7 for high end in the short term and MeeGo for high end in the long term.
 
Everybody's got credible inside information and much of it is contradictory. Moreover, a lot of it is crazy and makes absolutely no sense. I'll bet that there's a whole lot of trolls working at Nokia who look like this right now:

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I would say the outsiders are right and that multiple changes are in store. the stock goes up when they hear about aggressive plans from elop. if he doesn't follow through, down she goes. my bet is that the Register and WSJ has it right and of course Finnish media wants to paint the best picture possible, as they always have done. it's a virtual certainty that wp7 is going to be added as a platform. word is that HQ will be shared by Finland and Silicon Valley.

When you send memos called "burning platforms", you can be sure that major changes are coming. He says that Nokia platforms are "years" behind.

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Android is a linux distro running a java virtual machine...
it needs the processing power that Meego, WebOS, and even iOS does not...
though it is still relatively scalable...
Symbian probably is flexible, no one has tried running it on high powered hardware except for Samsung w/ one phone....
 
It's not the issue of it being flexible, it's about Nokia fragmenting it. Rather than offering FP1 as an upgrade for N95 users, it makes it only available to N95 8GB buyers. They also did stupid **** like removing the SIP stack from non E-series FP2 devices, so what you end up getting is a situation where on the one hand to get a small upgrade you have to buy a new phone that's not much different from what you have, but also has you losing a feature that you had before. Windows Mobile at least allowed upgrades, even if they were usually handled by guys at XDA. iOS was a free upgrade for iPhone users, giving you 3 OS upgrades before going EOL. Android, if you've got a with Google phone instead of a customised one gives you upgrades as well. So you're at least not stuck with an old OS, and there's an incentive to stay in. I think the biggest issue for Nokia with Symbian is that there really isn't any reason to buy a new Symbian phone, as it could very well be missing a feature from your old one, and using Qt to build up MeeGo doesn't help either since hardly any of the currently available Symbian phones could even support it. Symbian could very well have been that flexible platform, but Nokia totally screwed up how they handled it.



Android would be more of a lateral move. With Anrdoid users are consistently stuck with out of date versions while a new one is pumped out, either waiting for the phone to get rooted or for the manufacturer to push them an update. As an end user, a lot of the hassles of using Symbian would be right there in Android. WP7 on the other hand would be more of a move towards what iOS users get - 2-3 major OS updates before their phone stops getting supported. That's great for users and developers, so they're more likely to want to buy in.
 
Elop thinking is good for Nokia. The moves he makes might hurt the company in the short term.. but I am sure it will help in the long term!
 
My predictions given this new data:

1. Symbian is now end-of-life. It will go into support-only mode over the next couple of years, during which we are likely to get no major updates beyond PR 2.0. Only bug fixes after that.

The support staff will be perhaps one tenth to one fifth of the current compliment. Everyone else goes to MeeGo or is laid off, or some combination thereof.

2. Nokia continues its work on Qt and MeeGo in conjunction with Intel and this becomes the company's main platform.

3. Nokia leverages whatever remains of its economies of scale and becomes substantially platform agnostic. It becomes the world's first beige-box handset manufacturer, which is where the whole Android train is headed anyway.
 
I was stoked to hear the rumors about Nokia dropping Symbian but disappointed in reading that it would be WM7 not Android OS. WM7 has potential but honestly all the developers and apps are coming out for Android. Every store or website I go to have two versions of their apps, which are for Android or iOS. Some sites that are more technology based support other OS's but the main two for apps seem to be Android and iOS. I may consider a Nokia with WM7 if and only if WM7 matures well with a lot of developer support.
 
Now that it is evident that Nokia didn't do anything about it when Apple released iPhone back in 2007. Google, Microsoft started to build platforms from the scratch and google is giving tough fight to Apple while microsoft is all set to join the party with Apple & Google.

Since Nokia doesn't have any strategy besides Meego... they now need to jump ship to WP7 or andriod in the shoirt term so that they don't slide down any further in terms of marketshare. In the mean time, they need to spend enough time may be 1-2 years to come up with a solid platform(Meego/something else) to compete against iOS/Andriod/WP7. It's a long shot but worth it.

Look at Samsung/LG/Moto/HTC/SE. They are pumping high end phones into the market with 1GHz/dual core CPU, 512MB/1GB RAM, > 4 inch screens, 3G video recording, high resolution Super AMOLED displays, Webtop etc., They soon release 1080p video recording. the same players were nowhere close to Nokia back in 2005/6/7 when it comes to innovation. Nokia had the edge at that time... they fell asleep for good 3 years. Until now Nokia or Nokia fans never realized this issue :( Hope Elop will change the company's fate pretty fast.
 
Dead wrong. Qualcomm 8250 is the only chip that WP7 strictly supports for now. Texas Instruments asked Microsoft to support OMAP6 before and Microsoft turned them down.

WP7 is going after a tight game console like environment. In such an environment, even the speed is tightly controlled and stable since upping the speed can break the game play.



Nope. You are resolution dependent if that's the style you code. Resolution independent coding is possible and that's how desktop programs are done. You can have an app that will run a wide range of resolutions by not hard coding specific values into display coordinates; that coordinates are based on virtual values which the OS can replace; declarations of resolution support are based on virtual values like High_Density instead of WVGA.

Honestly, if you take Angry Birds on Android, optimized to run on 800x480 resolution, without any testing, it would run on the Samsung Galaxy Tab, full screen, with 1024x600 resolution. I already tried this. Played many levels. No problem.

The problem of WP7 updates, that HTC, Samsung, Dell and all the players cannot make minor bug fix updates to their separate and own handsets. They do that on Android all the time. Non Android OS per se related updates. With WP7, all the bugs in all the WP7 handsets has to be collated into one big patch, which is released to solve all these problems. You still get the bug fixes meant for the Dell Venue Pro even if you own a Samsung Focus.



That's because to get Android Market, the maker has to do two things:

First join the OHA or Open Handset Alliance. This makes sure you are not a fly by nighter.

Second, the device has to pass through a series of strict compatibility tests.

Third, there is a device minimum and specification, that includes camera, GPS and so on.

You don't meet that, you don't get the Market.



WP7 doesn't scale at all. It doesn't have a tablet version. Microsoft plans to port Windows 7 to ARM for tablets. If you got both tablets and smartphones, you can write one app, then include declarations so the OS knows what to do if that app runs on that device. Or you can write one app, then make variations to suit smartphone and another for tablet. Tablet and smartphone are reinforcing each other's ecosystems.



Wrong. You write an app on WP7, it won't work on Xbox 360. Doesn't matter if you write it with XNA. The graphical abilities are totally different and they don't even have the same graphics and CPU architectures.

By the same token, iOS and Android are already sharing one mega ecosystem. Once you start going native bypassing the Dalvik VM, you're dealing with Linux and Unix and for graphics, OpenGL.

Have you figured out why Firefox for Mobile is being developed in parallel on both Android and Maemo? If the update comes, it is simultaneous on both?

Have you figured out why Angry Birds are found in particular to iOS, Android, Symbian and even WebOS. Now even PS3. Have you figured out what all three have in common? OpenGL.



All of Apple's platforms are based on a single OS, of which they are two variations, MacOS and iOS. But the underpinnings of the two are the same. That's not true with Windows CE and Windows desktop.



Android has no need to scale down to the range of S40. All the low end Android hardware platform has to do is go down in prices. Android is already very viable in the now current low end of ARM11 powered smartphones.
 
I don't think so. that would kill most of Nokia's sales. even if it were true, he can't say that. I actually thinks he tries to breathe life into Symbian as a mid range platform for established markets where it is already strong. and goes forward with symbian wp7 meego (as symbian successor where symbian is now strong).
 
It'll expand. They're not going to sit on it forever.



Stable is a good thing.




Having a Netbook with 1024x576 resolution, I can tell you that resolution independent software only goes so far, and some of it still expects 600 or 768 vertical pixels, as well as 1280 or 1366 horizontal ones. Some stuff just won't run well, even if it fits.



Scaling up is always easier than scaling down. And WP7 is starting at a certain point and moving up from there.






No, it's because Android wasn't designed for tablets, so Google refused to support tablets.




Yet, neither did iOS.



Interface for something as small as a smartphone is significantly different from a tablet, whereas tablet and desktop are a lot closer. webOS has a nice interface that goes across everything, but there's a reason that MeeGo looks massively different on Netbooks, Tablets and Smartphones.



It doesn't have to be a universal app, it just has to be one that converts easily. Ilomilo shows how easily it's done. XNA made the 360 a preferred lead platform, plenty of devs already know how to work with it, and now they've got XNA for easy development on 3 platforms.



Sharing OpenGL is no different from sharing DirectX.



Technically it's being developed on parallel for Linux and Windows but only the Windows version is any good.



See back to DirectX.



If you want desktop software to run easily you need something like the N900, which uses a stylus. Going for a pure finger based touch screen interface, you need to completely re-design the software anyway. Even for games you need to re-do the interface even if the graphical assets remain the same. Having one program that installs everywhere only works to a degree. It's a good idea for PS3 and PSP2 because of the common interface method. Once you change the interface method you need to change the software anyway.



Show me an Android phone that sells for $25, brand new, off contract.
 
I totally agree and the most likely outcome. Again, we'll see, but it's increasingly looking like it.

Wow, it's also kind of, well, bizarre, that Nokia will be pumping new releases like the E7 and others on an end of life OS.

I wouldn't doubt that by MWC 2012 we see a Nokia Android, a Nokia WP7, and a Nokia Meego device.
 
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