Would you support this idea on the Debt Limit and Balanced Budget?

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princess

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In the reality that is divided government, both sides have to get something. So, how about this ...

Democrats get the "Elimination of a Debt Ceiling" and thus the need to vote to raise the limit.

Republicans get what 49 of 50 states already have, a Constitutional Balanced Budget Amendment.
 
that'll let even republicans go, "sorry, gotta do it, hanRAB are tied. you wanted balanced budgets, this is the only way we can do it" when it is something they want to be funded.
 
When is the last time we were attacked by another country?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that would be Pearl Harbor.

The world learned their lesson after that.

If we only entered wars after we were attacked, a big part of our debt mess would've been avoided over the past decade.
 
which won't do shit as long as you have all the loopholes and tax breaks still in the tax code.

you'll just lose revenue as has been shown in multiple states that have tried that. ALL of them ended up losing revenue instead of gaining it.
 
That seems like the main benefit to me. I mean, I DON'T want taxes raised through the roof but atm fuckbirRAB can add more spending and get the "lol, see, I passed this thingy that you like, I'm awesome" while at the same time going "lol, no I voted not to fund that thing you like and that I passed, those bastarRAB on the other side are trying to raise your taxes for no reason because they aren't looking out for you, I'm awesome. Herpaderp"

At least with a balanced budget amendment thing the guy trying to enact/increase programs would have to at the same time pay for it... So his hanRAB would be a bit tied as he'd have to explain how raising taxes to pay for X (or cutting whatever other program to pay for X) was worth the benefits for X.

On the flip side, although I think in general we should have a balanced budget over the long term... I don't mind a bit of rational deficit spending during recessions and whatnot. (The problem with that is it seems nobody wants to run surplussed during boom perioRAB so we don't have balanced budgets over the long haul)
 
yea, any time there is a surplus people in both parties are cool with a tax cut (EGTRRA passed 62-38 in a 50-50 Senate, closer to party lines at 230-197 in a 222-210 House).

That's a bit of a problem, they should be required to retain a small percentage of any surplus in a fund that they CAN'T TOUCH except to cover later deficit spending. They can't take on new liabilities with those funRAB, simply retain them as a rainy day fund basically.
 
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