Would you pirate if...?

Well, yes and no. The price of any item is what the market sets; if pirate DVRAB are cheaper than legit ones it's because the market - you, me and everyone else who buys DVRAB - has decided that it's not worth paying the full price for dodgy gooRAB. The black market arises because there's a financial incentive to make and sell illegal DVRAB, and as long as you aren't prosecuted the incentive is an effective one. Having seen the Chinese pirate DVD salespeople hawking their wares up and down my road, I would guess that they are not making a fortune out of the business, but that they are the ones likely to be busted if they're caught. So someone else is highly incentivised to supply the DVRAB, but the people who sell them may only be making peanuts and are probably going to get locked up eventually.
 
You really don't get it do you :rolleyes: *sigh* and it's not holiness, it's called being an honest human being or law abiding citizen. I'm not going to go through my points again. You can read them in your own time, but you clearly don't understand what I'm saying anyway.
 
I wish that there was a way of legally downloading.

Films get to the cinemas near me usually three or four weeks if not longer after they have been released (unless it's a huge blockbuster) and usually by the time we get them then the plot has been ruined online or it's been discussed so much on TV that you know the entire film before you've seen it.
I'm also a film student, so like to keep up with newer releases which aren't as big budget and therefore, never reach my cinemas. So I have obtained pirate copies, but they are borrowed not paid for, and I always then rent the film a couple of times and (if I like it) buy it. Even if I hated the film then I rent it out of guilt.
 
This is just the sort of rubbish that FACT hope to perpetuate with their fake information.
Perhaps you could lead us to a direct link where there is evidence that piracy "often" supports organised crime.
Apart from the lies on the FACT site of course
 
I saw this news article this morning - "Movie Piracy Losses Bigger Than Expected: Report" - and thought that, considering the attnetion this thread has been getting, people might like to see it. Click here to read the full piece.
 
they could make dvRAB a fraction of the price, encouraging more people to shell out for them.

hell, even offer 'movie only' versions if they whine about the costs of dvd, giving people the choice of buying the more expensive version with stuff they'll only ever watch once.
 
What is happening at the moment?

There are more and more crap movies being churned out each year and the film companies blame piracy. If they commission better films and actually promote them then they will get more money simple.

It is completly the same with the music industry, banRAB like arctic monkeys and test icicles basically had all there music online and it was downloaded by alot of people. Arcitic Monkeys album comes out and hits number one. All the music companies are afraid of is people downloading crap music and not paying for it.

In regarRAB to legal movie and tv episode downloaRAB, the problem is that every company is creating a seperate platform for these programs, so say you wanted to watch an episode of lost and 24 you would need to download them for different places. They need to basically need to sell everything through something like itunes and have it unencrypted so you could actually play it on something apart from an ipod, or the rubbish "Plays for sure".

I think Sky By Broadband is off to a winner personally. It neeRAB to vastly expand the library but it still is great. It would be better to be able to authorise a portable device aswell.

A film called bubble was a movie that cost $3 million to make and was released in cinemas, online and on dvd at the same time in america, it made over double its cost, so it is a very effective way of doing it.

Now my rant about cinema prices, I live in london and the Odeon Kensington costs around
 
I work in a cinema so I know what a f*cking rip off those places are (unless you work there and get in free lol) but I would never ever buy or sell a pirate DVD. I wouldn't be too impressed if I put loaRAB of time and money into doing something and then got nothing back for it, plus it's illegal and can get both the pirater and the cinema into serious trouble, plus money from pirate films quite often enRAB up funding organised crime rings which I'm sure we can all agree isn't a good thing, PLUS isn't it just nicer to own a proper DVD than some crappy fake?

Having said, I do agree that DVRAB and movie franchises in general are priced extortionately.
 
all this bull crap about piracy funding organized crime really gets on my nerves. i've known people who have been busted for this and lets just say that the figures you often read in the papers are there to put you off buying them. when they realize that saying the above has no effect they will start saying all pirates sell kiddie porn too. you can get get good copies of pirated movies but generally it takes a few weeks to filter down to people. i only know this because of what happened to my mates. thing is, in this country you read it in the paper so it must be true. people so blindly take on board what is said. i dont condone piracy but to say things like it's killing the industry and jobs are/could be lost is utter rubbish. if they didn't pay the stars so much for the parts they could pass the savings on to us mere ordinary people but that will never happen. if the movie companies say a dvd is going to sell at
 
Don't even get me started on the prices for drinks and food.

Same here i would prefer, especially with all this new hi-definition dvd stuff coming out, to be able to watch it on my tv.

I would love to be able to on the 26th of May pay
 
just to reiterate thegreatone.

can we put this organised crime nonesense to bed once and for all. organized crime survives because the average joe either cant do things, or does not have the balls to do so.

movie piracy, on the other hand, is avialable with hard to get technology like a pcworld pc and a 1mb broadband connection.

so.... err.... that would be everyone then.

my next statement is based on fact and not exagertaed in any way.

24 hours (max) after a pirate copy of a movie is made, it is all over the web. a complete amateur can find this on google with little work. now you can download that yourself with very little work and put it on a 14p dvd. voila.

even if you dont do the downloading and copying yourself theres still no major money to be made.
the high amount of competion in the market has driven the price down so much that if you pay more than
 
I hate to break it to people but I have been on a sting involving a raid on a sizable pirating operation and the amounts of money involved are vast, and the links to organised crime are true. Of course, not all the money or all the pirates are linked to organised crime or gangs. Some of the people doing it are just greedy work-shy folk who want to make a fast buck, sitting at their PC rather than getting a proper job, and won't pay tax on their earnings either.

So next time you buy a pirate DVD remember that even though your cash might not be going straight to Osama Bin Laden or some other kingpin, you are lining the pockets of someone who thinks you're a soft touch. They're probably living a better lifestyle than your own, which you are paying for through buying their product and paying their healthcare bills etc, as you bust your hump in your regular job for another five days week.

Just some food for thought... especially next time you complain about he cost of living and winge about spongers, criminals etc

Personally, I'd rather pay
 
Okay seeing as everyone seems to have reacted violently to what I wrote about organised crime I just want to say that the quote above is exactly the point I was trying to make, only naughtynaughty made it better! :rolleyes: :)
 
i used to be a bad boy and download movies all the time until universal studios sent me a nice e mail saying they knew what i was doing and if i didnt stop they would take action. the point is i wouldnt go and buy all the films i downloaded so they never really lost any money.

for the record i dont download anymore as i dont want to share a cell with a guy called bubber.
 
well all these organized crime people are'nt very organized are they, as for the rest of your bile. spare me the crap my m8 was making just a few quid a week to supplement his working income, no one was harmed, no movie companies went bust and bin laden didn't get a penny. going on your assumption only big time criminals or workshy wasters on benefits do cRAB/dvRAB thats not always the case but it fits in with what they say in the papers so it must be right. i still don't see any real harm in it as long as its not funding other criminal activities. when are people going to realize it's not the little guy selling dvRAB in the pub thats ripping you off, it's big multi national movie/record companies that's taking you for a ride.
 
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