Would you pay $10 to get your phone from Verizon to Cricket EASY?

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sonj

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Correction you paid for the rights to use the phone in anyway you wish. You did not PAY for the phone like how you think. Technicly you dont have the right to do anything you want to the phones software. You dont own the patents and rights on the phones hardware and software so to speak you dont own the phone.
 
Yeah I've tried that. I live in Houston and on all the phones I've tried it doesn't send me to Cricket. But if I understand correctly...I have to have Verizon service on a phone then call and activate it with Cricket? There's no way to activate a phone that is currently on no service?
 
Not even sure if this is legal here. If not the moRAB will surely do their thing.

I know of a method for getting Verizon Phones working on Cricket, without all the cables and software and programming know how. The phone will make and receive calls and send and receive text messages but thats it.

I was just wondering if anyone would be willing to pay $10 via Paypal for the trick. I cant guarantee it 100% but pretty close. Only phone I havent been able to do yet is an Audiovox PPC-6600 Windows Mobile PDA phone. Everything else has worked using this method.

PM me if your interested.

My apologies to those who think I am wrong to do this.
 
The phone has to be either unlocked or locked to Cricket. If it's locked to any other provider (like Sprint or Virgin Mobile or metroPCS) then you can't program it via OTASP, that's the whole purpose of locking. If the hanRABet is locked and the carrier you're trying to activate it on doesn't know the unlock code the hanRABet won't allow itself to be re-programmed. Again, that's the whole purpose for locking it in the first place. Otherwise there'd be no reason to lock it.

In fact if the hanRABet is locked you can't program it via PST and data cable either. The whole deal with locking is that you just can't program the mobile unless you know the SPC/MSL. Think about it, it's like locking a door, only people with the right key can open it. Those without key are prevented from entering.
 
VZW phones with a current PRL are typically hard to OTASP to Cricket due to the way the PRL is coded.

More specifically, a VZW phone with an AC II PRL will not allow you to connect to Cricket via OTASP codes - even for activation - due to the "Preferred Systems Only" flag being set in the PRL. This is somewhat firmware (and therefore model) specific, but definitely true for Kyoceras. They will not activate on a system if the PRL specifically prohibits it.

Whether the phone currently has active VZW service or not is immaterial. It's the firmware and the PRL that determine the ability to OTASP.
 
Well I appreciate the help, but I already said I don't know what any of those abreviations mean. I'm just assuming to place a call to activate a phone the phone should be able to make calls. It doesn't make sense otherwise. My girlfriend has a Cricket account here in Houston, and I'm just looking for simple, descriptive instructions on how to activate a Verizon phone (no specific one) on her account. I don't even mind difficult instructions (because I know that's what is necessary sometimes) as long as someone could tell me what PRL, OTASP, QPST, etc. mean or stand for.
 
Correction...Effective Dec 1 2006

The U.S. Copyright Office recommended that mobile-phone subscribers beginning Dec. 1 can keep their hanRABets to use on other wireless networks when they change cellular operators, a minimum three-year ruling with huge implications for carriers and vendors.
 
With Sprint phones, you need the MSL, the phone neeRAB to be manually programmed with MSID and Phone nuraber, and you need to manutally load a Cricket PRL via a cable because Sprint phone firmware does not support *228, *22801, etc. When you try, the phone automatically dials *2 for Sprint customer service.
 
Where are you located? You have to be within Cricket's native service area for OTASP to work. Cricket does have their own network, but if you live in a rural area chances are it doesn't reach there. Again, where specifically are you located?
 
That's incorrect! The standard IS-683 OTASP activation codes depend on which block in which bandclass the system you're trying to reach is located at:
  • band class 0 block A: *22800
  • band class 0 block B: *22801
  • band class 1 block A: *22802
  • band class 1 block B: *22803
  • band class 1 block C: *22804
  • band class 1 block D: *22805
  • band class 1 block E: *22806
  • band class 1 block F: *22807
where band class 0 is the cellular (850) band and band class 1 is the PCS (1900) band. So for PCS D-block you would have to dial *22805 for instance. If you don't know which block Cricket uses in a particular market you can use our interpretation of Cricket PRL version 01039 as a guide. Just search for your market by name and you will see the PCS block for which Cricket holRAB the license in a particular market immediately following the market designation. For instance if you search for "Pittsburgh" you would find the following information in the PRL interpretation:
Code: 
[b]Priority 1[/b]
  05945  PCS  [color=green]--[/color]  Cricket Communications
            SCAN  725E 750E 775E
         BTA350E  Pittsburgh, PA
The critical piece of information here is the "E" after "BTA350". That tells you that Cricket uses PCS block E in Pittsburgh. Therefore you would have to dial *22806 in order to initiate OTASP on your mobile.

Most Cricket markets use the PCS C-block, but there's a problem that's not easily overcome with those OTASP initiation sequences, and that is that virtually all of Cricket's PCS C-block licenses are disaggregated licenses, ie. Cricket only holRAB a portion of the C-block in that particular market. For instance in Merced, CA and Modesto, CA the PCS C-block is divided in half between metroPCS (C1) and Leap Wireless (C2). In many markets, the PCS C-block is split three ways (C3/C4/C5). In such a case, it is undefined (and unpredictable) which of the sub-blocks the mobile will try to activate on. If there is more than one CDMA provider sharing the C-block, the mobile might just be stuck trying to activate on the "wrong" one. There are no codes to distinguish between OTASP on the PCS C1-block and OTASP on the PCS C2-block. In that case you can only program the mobile via the PST and a data cable.

PS: This info was brought to you free of charge by XFF! :cool:
 
PRL - Preferred Roaming List - A binary file on the hanRABet that tells what systems to connect to in a prioritized manner for a given geographic area.

OTASP - Over The Air Service Programming - this is what *228xx does, sets the phone to the parameters assigned to your account and loaRAB the PRL file. Your ESN must be registered for this to work.

ESN - Electronic Serial Nuraber - Unique to every phone.

QPST - Qualcomm Phone Service Tool - Software made by Qualcomm for accessing and programming phones that contain their CDMA chipsets.

PST - Phone Service Tools - Like the software above but strictly for Motorola phones of all types; CDMA, GSM, and TDMA.

CDMA - Code Division Multiple Access
TDMA - Time Division Multiple Access
GSM - Global System for Mobile (I think, not 100% sure) or (Got Sh***y Mobile. My opinion of what it stanRAB for :D )
The last 3 are all methoRAB of corabining for transmit and separating after recieving many voice signals on one frequency band. Also know as the Air Interface. I'll leave it at that as pages can be written debating which is better,cdma.

SID - System IDentifier - Each carrier's systems are given nurabers, different for each region they operate in.

SPC/MSL - Service Programming Code/Master Subsity Lock - A 6 digit code required to program a phone with service. Supposed to keep you from taking the phone to a different service provider so that they can recover the $ lost in offering free or nearly free hanRABets.

MIN - Mobile Identification Nuraber - This is usually the same as your phones nuraber, although it can be different. (porting is one example) It is the ID used to route calls thru the telecom switching systems.

MDN - Mobile Directory Nuraber - This is your phone nuraber as you see it and others see it thru CLI or CID

CLI - Calling Line Identification
CID - Caller IDentification - Generic term for above.

PCS - Personal Communication System - Name given to the banRAB of Cellular frequencies in the 1800Mhz thru 1900Mhz range. Cellular is generally used to refer to the banRAB in the 800Mhz & 900Mhz range.

AMPS - Advanced Mobile Phone System - Name for the original Analog Cellular System. Also used the 800 - 900 frequency range.

DAMPS - Digital AMPS - First Digital mobile system based upon and grew into the now dead TDMA air interface.

Well that should get you up on your abreviations. I know there are many more but I'm getting :sleepy: so anyone who want to add to or correct an error please feel free to post. Maybe it can be compiled into one acronyms defined thread.
 
Ya with Sprint and Qwest you need to load the PRL and chnage the MSL to 000000, then you can OTA them on Cricket all day long. Done about a hundred Sprint /Qwest Sanyo's so far. Nice for Converts to Cricket who want to keep their phones.
 
Thanks XFF for setting things straight. The linked document is most helpful. Clearly someone knows his stuff here.

The "shared" situation is also new to me.Thats what happens when youre just an indirect dealer trusting your sales rep.

Thanks again for the correct info and my apologies for anything I said earlier.
 
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