Withrawals from Suboxone

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Hi, I just want to make sure that I understand. You did go off of the suboxone also didn't you. How long have you been off and what are your symptoms of withdrawl like. I have been on suboxone for 4 months and with the doctor's help have weaned myself off of them cutting the pills down to halves then quarter and then almost eighths of a pill, as someone described it "crurabs". I decided two days ago enough is enough and stop taking them (it was time). I haven't felt this bad since I went to the withdrawl clinic and they had to get the opiates, vicodin, xanax and oxycodone out of me before giving me suboxone. At least in the hospital when you stop all of your pills and they put you on suboxone they are at least giving you other pills to help you out too and the sub. Now I feel like I am coming out of my skin. I went off 2 days ago!!!!! My legs are sooooo figity or restless that I absolutely can't stand it and was used to taking Arabien for about 7 years to sleep and now I have some anti depressants that my doctor gave me that are supposed to make me sleep, well nothing right now will make me sleep. Last night I took 2 antidepressants (if anyone wants to know the name I will get it for you) and then after 4 hours took 2 Tylenol PM and 4 hours later took 2 more Tylenol PM. I don't know how long this is going to last. I just want my life back and I am sure that everyone else feels the same way. If you or anyone else out there can give me tips on what to do right now I would welcome anyone's advice. Typing on the computer has kept my mind off of my legs being so restless and that crawling out of your skin feeling, I feel very nauceous, very restless, very anxious, no energy at all just overall absolutely terrible. I have fibromyalgia only finding out after having Major Neck Surgery several years ago that I have it. My surgery did nothing for my excruitiating pain in the back of my head, my neck, my shoulders etc. etc. Now I am free of the vicoden, arabien, hydrocodone, xanax etc. after my doctor telling me that I wasn't getting dependant on them for several years only to find out that I was hooked. But.....this suboxone is hell going off of it. How are you coping now? My name is Lyn and I live in Michigan. I look forward to getting some answers from everyone.
 
Hey, first of all i wanna say im proud of you! second the withdraws, are just the same as if you were coming of an opiate. I abused opiates, and many other drugs for ten years, and it actually took me awhile to get off suboxone. Mainly because i had no backbone! Now i know how you feel, the emotions, thinking of giving back in, but DON'T F'IN DO IT! suboxone is no diffrent than snorting a bag of dope, except the dr is now making money off you vs a drug dealer. I got tired of people making money off my selfish habit. You will get better and better, and i know This is probabaly the hardest thing you have to do in life, but when you do, which i know you can do! You will feel great about your self. But when you finally do, its a big test! a tests to live your life like a normal person. You have to deal with life, without escaping to a pill/ whatever it is! I did what your doing now, and im very proud! just be strong! I know you can do it!!!
 
Thanks Denon and Smith 9 for your posts. I was on "trazadone" and it did nothing for me either. I am hoping that it is because I have been in withdrawl for almost a month and that it will get better soon. I am going to two docs. next week and I will talk to them again about not sleeping. I would like to go to the "sleep clinic" again.

Take care everyone Lyn in Michigan
 
Yeah trazadone is a joke, There is also lunesta. Trial and error is what I always say. But you definately need your sleep. Glad we could help. Take care gotta run!-Missy
 
Hi Missy

Thanks, yes Trazadone did nothing for me. My fam. doctor said he would prescribe Lunesta but I said no because I thought it was the same as Arabien. Can anyone else tell me if they have been on both and how the Lunesta worked compared to Arabien. I have been on Arabien for 9 years everynight, but was off for 5 months and now back on and it does nothing and I haven't had more than 2 hrs. sleep in a month. Help!!!!

Take care everyone, Thanks Lyn
 
Hey Lyn,

Welcome! I am so sorry to hear you are doing so terrible.... Boy , do I remeraber those days like it was yesterday and they were BEYOND TERRIBLE... The restless legs and not sleeping I thought was going to drive me totally insane! Hang in there.. I promise you it does get better!! And if typing and posting helps take your mind off your legs and the anxiety then post away!

We have all been in your shoes and it's NO FUN but it's worth it when it's all over! That much I can promise you so stay strong and believe in yourself that you can get thru this.

We are here for you! You will be in my thoughts and prayers!
~Secrets
 
Hi again, I said I haven't had more than 2 hours sleep in a month, I meant 2 hours of sleep in a night. When I first went into withdrawl from "suboxone" which I have been off of for 29 days now, the first week I got 0 hours of sleep. My withdrawl symptoms are gone now (some days however they come back a bit) but it took at least 3 weeks solid to get rid of the symptoms but now I still can't sleep and it is horrible.

Take care Lyn in Michigan
 
Hey lyn, Thanks for the support. I have read your story and know exactly how you feel. Youre body is exasted but your eyes won't stay shut because of the leg cramps and sweats not to mention chills, diarreah, and lack of energy. Everything you have taken I have too and arabien makes me hallucinate. I was told the body will give out and you will sleep but not for long. zanbars are no relieve either. I wish the doctor would put me in a coma for about a week and when I awake it's all gone. Watch the tylenol pm. One night out of desperation I took 18 tylenol pm's then I started throwing up. And still didnt sleep. I love hot tubs, and pulsating showers. I put my water as hot as I can stand it and let it make me weak. Try some eucalyptus oils in the water and it will give you some relieve. I come straight out of the tub or shower into my towel and straight into bed and while by body is cooling off from the heat I dose off for a while. I know it is not much but everybody has there own little thing they do --Try chanting too, ummmmmmmmmmmmm will stop the thoughts from racing thru your mind. I know it is not a big consolation but I have been on suboxone for 3 years and the dt's are cake compared to living life miserable. I will problably be on it for the rest of my life. I can deal with taking a pill everyday and being normal than suffering a lifetime with trying to take another opiate again. Listen to your breathing, put a eye mask on your face (herbal eye mask are helpful). Tkae care of yourself and I hope you have sweet dreams soon. I only dream about mexican drug lorRAB when I'm detoxing. lol
 
You definately got to get you some sleep. Sleep deprivation can cause you so many problems. NOt to mention losing your mind in the process. If your doctor won't help you find another one. I know from experience there have been times when I would go weeks on end with out a full nights rest. I'm talking 1 or 2 hours a night. My doctor told me that our body's actually do go into sleep cycles even if we aren't aware of it. So you are probably nodding off and just to exasted to feel it. There has to be something going on with you medically but mental stress will do it to you to. Other than prescribed sleeping pills, which help, I would try yoga. There are alot of benefits to getting into yoga. They teach you methoRAB of relaxation and it work. There's a guy on oxygen channel, Steve Ross is the guys name, he has a show on at 5 o'clock in the morning and another one at 7 am. Check your listings, but anyway if nothing else is helping it is definately worth a shot. "inhale" is the shows name. You will enjoy it and I guarantee this guy will calm you and help you find your inner strength. Hope you rest soon.
 
Something that worked for me was Trazadone (anti-depressant). Its not supposed to be habit-forming and made me drowsy in 20 minutes so I could fall asleep. My problem was falling asleep - not staying asleep. Something to consider.
 
I think maybe the 9 years being on them has got you immune to their effects on you. You need to really be honest with your doctor and sometimes straight up rude and tell him there musst be something to knock your ass out. Do you drink alcohol. If you do be care with mixing those two things together. Tylenol pm or really any other over the counter sleep meRAB if mixed with alcohol can cause sudden liver failure and kill you. So please watch out. But if I were you and I wasn't on any other medication I would "crack a bottle" A couple of stiff drinks will at least relax you. Just don't over do it and wake up with a big hangover.
 
Hi Smith

Thank you so much for your reply. I am so confused. I could call my fam. doc and he would send a prescription to the drug store for the Lunesta but I do think you are correct. After almost 20 years and no testing at the "sleep clinic" because they told me I could stay on the "Arabien" for the rest of my life!!!! they do need to get to the bottom of this. When I went off my pain killers and went to the withdrawl clinic they automatically took me off of my "Arabien" because they said along with my opiates that my other fam. doc had me on that I shouldn't be taking Arabien either. But I am going to go crazy if I don't get any sleep. I can tell if I am going to fall asleep and I feel myself falling asleep and then I wake up seconRAB or a minute later with my heart pounding out of my chest and I am wide awake. It is like my system won't shut off. There is definitely something wrong. Also I am in "Chronic Pain" constantly with my neck and shoulders and can't get comfortable at all so that doesn't help. Now I have nothing but Cyrabalta to take for my pain and it does nothing for my pain maybe my anxiety for being in chronic pain 24/7. I am trying to see a light at the end of the tunnel maybe from the new neurologist I am going to next week and also I am getting the nerve blocks done in a few weeks to burn the nerves in my neck again!!!! I really don't know what is worse because after getting all that done, I still probably won't be able to sleep. I am getting so frustrated. Thanks for answering me again. I appreciate it.

Take care of yourself. Lyn in Michigan
 
Hi again Smith, I think the last post we were sending at the same time (ha ha)!!!!! I only drink socially and never have a drink close to my bedtime when I am supposed to take my sleeping pill. I have always been overly causious (sp) of that. Thanks for caring. Maybe I will have a few glasses of wine with dinner, who knows. My head aches all the time too and probably if I have wine early it will give me a hangover (my luck) before I go to bed and make my head worse. Today I have been wearing my collar that I used after my neck surgery as my neck is so sore. I can't win and nothing helps over the counter for my pain. Yuuuchh!!!!!

Thanks, how is everything going with you? Take care
Lyn in Michigan
 
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