Will you be discussing this with your son?

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My mother has discussed these same things with me from time to time.

My son is going to know how women and marriage work these days. Without a doubt he is going to be informed of the bias in the system and then he can make a judgement for himself.

I will of course be talking to him before his brain goes to jello in love for a woman.
bijou
So you will let your son work his A off to get somewhere in life. Love a woman, have kids and buy into a home.

Then he will have all of that taken away from him because she and the system says so.

Wow, good mum you are.
Well then your son is going to do great lol best x those fingers, because the real world does not revolve around your 1 case. There are many sides and you either seem not to know or are putting your sons life at jeapordy by putting your head in the sand.
Blue Shivers
Yes the blog is pretty extreme and not exactly what I would talk to my son about, but aspects of it. Delete parts that are extreme views of women, but certainly talk about what can and does happen to men.
Charis
Slight problem. There is 1 adult that you have not had any influence bringing them up, that being your sons wife.

To give your sons the rights tools, as you say, then they would need to fully understand that there is an extreme failure rate and the possible consequences of the system at hand. We are talking 50% failure. Not some obscure number.

I take it you dont realise that bringing your sons up to do the right thing and to be the right man, will leave them even more devistated (suicidal perhaps) because of their innocense and disbelief at such human nature.


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the person that wrote that is very insecure w/himself. he needs to get more self confidence so he isnt so threatened by a successful woman.

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lol... i know my 16 year old son could see through this load of crap.

i love my son and we are close. his dad and i are divorced, but on very good terms. his father has remarried to a really wonderful woman and there are many other examples of happy marriages in his life for him to draw from. i do tell him that some people are not honest nor ethical and that he should take care in choosing his friends. that advice extends to his romantic choices as well.

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Yes, the best thing you can do is stay away from women and marriage.

By all means you and any man who thinks like you or who believes that hate filled nonsense, while being too lazy or too intellectually inept to do some basic research, should resist any urge to inflict themselves on any woman.

Please do not breed in or out of marriage.

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I cannot understand some feminists/women! Take the first answerer, for example... If "empowered" women are indeed responsible of the "must arrest" policy, then we do have to fear them. Men are demonized, state and society-wise. And then women complain of the "patriarchy" and "rape culture" When some random creep harrasses some random girl. Sure, it is terrible, but it's not oppressive, its a crime, just like (Paternity) fraud, just like murder, and just like every other crime some women commit. The thing is, that the "patriarchy" lets them go for that, whereas a rapist is doomed to prison. And don't come with this bullshit of "(insert random percentage)% of rapes are not reported", because its the particular women who get raped and keep shut who are to blame.

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You know, for the most part I have a heck of a lot of respect for the plight of men in todays western world and have respect for what you MRA's come up with, simply because I have researched what you have said myself and come to the conclusion that there is truth in what you say for the most part.
But this blog, it is not only putting Feminists down, but all women. I have a problem with it, because there are many untruths and distorted facts and surely you don't think that I am stupid enough to swallow this tripe.
Actually, as a mere woman, who by all rights with what that ridiculous blog said, perhaps I should just crawl under the nearest rock because apparently as a woman, I have venereal diseases, am a gold digger and cold hearted monster(am none of these).
Way to go for your MRA cause, and no, my sons will be taught how to protect themselves from gold-diggers and also this hatred being spawned by that blog.
Sorry if I got mad at you(that blog really riled me), but yes. I will be having that chat with the boys when they get a bit older, to protect themselves from the worst of women who do act like spoilt brats. I honestly don't think all women are evil though, just like there men, they are definately not all evil either.
(bite me td'rs)

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I am saddened and disappointed with the link you chose and can only assume you did this for shock value alone.

I discuss many issues with my children, from racism to ageism, anything they want to discuss but I won't be bringing this hateful site up for discussion. I don't need to. We show both our children a healthy, nurturing, supportive very long term relationship by example.

Now this is one case in many, I agree, but we are giving them the tools they need to survive in an adult world and develop healthy relationships themselves. Children model themselves on those who love them. Give them positive models to model themselves on.

And, If for any reason their relationships fail, we will be there to support them and help them the best we can. Our duty is not to make children hate, or be suspicious of the world or expect failure. Our main responsibility as parents is to show our children positive behaviours to model, to discuss issues that THEY wish to discuss and show them how to succeed in what they want to succeed in themselves.

I can only trust that my children will make choices as adults that are good for them and their families. I can only trust my children will act as responsible, just human beings. I can only trust my children. As parents that is all we can do.

Edit: My children will chose who is right for them. I can only trust their judgment and support them if they want or need my support. Nobody can predict the future. Giving a child confidence, optimism and tools to help them build a good life is far better than making them fearful and expect to 'fail'.

Both of my children are very aware of some people's realities, my profession brings up many harrowing issues that they have wanted to discuss and I have done so openly and honestly with them. We can only trust our children, their judgment and hope that we have prepared them by giving them the tools they need to try to make good decisions and their lives happy.

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Charis if you have a successfull long therm relationship that thats what your sons will remember.
You should be aware though that many boys from divorced homes saw the above link happening to their fathers.

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Maybe not exactly like that, bit I did have "the talk" with my son a while back.

Condemning women for the ills of feminism as a whole is not right. Not ALL women think like that. Not ALL women will take your for all you are worth. Not ALL women will use you as a walking ATM/donor....And not ALL women will take advantage of the lopsided divorce and child custody industry... Many? Yes. But not all.

Also, condemning the institution of marriage is not the right thing to do. But, warning of the possibility of what "could" happen is reasonable enough. As long as it is framed in the way that it is not ALWAYS that way.

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A lot of this is true, I can speak from personal experience.

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My little brother is very excited at the prospect of getting married; I'm not about to sidetrack him from that on account of a few nutty women. He'll find a woman that loves him.

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"A self-righteous, perverse and trashy ‘up is down’ world that is hopelessly amoral & mentally ill, pathologically obsessed with celebrity gossip, appearance, pettiness, perfectionism, vindictiveness, entitlement, abortion and victim hood."
I'm sorry, but most men live in this world too. And since when is my job, which pays a lot of the bills, a do nothing job? I have never heard of a job that paid you even if you didn't show up or did no work. I know a lot of people (men especially!) who would love that position.
I know that the system is geared towards women now, but it wasn't all that long ago that a man could beat his wife or daughter to death and get away with it as long as the stick (or weapon) was no more than three inches in with.
Look it up and learn a little history.

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A bit strong, but not entirely untrue.
There are a fair amount of women like this out there; not all, but certainly some.
You're G-D right I'm going to instruct my son to be careful, more careful than other, less fortunate men, have been.
I'm also going to tell him to not let his heart conquer his head; one of the few advantages we have is our logic and reason.
And I also will tell my daughter the same!!
Also, I think women can be successful without being vengeful; they can be feminine without being pushovers; most feminist sniping at men is inaccurate, unfair, and unrealistic; many women in fact ARE selfish, vengeful, spiteful creatures, who'll stop at nothing to get what they want or punish whom they please.
This doesn't apply to all women, but for a lot -
You'll NEVER have our respect - and you need us far far more than we need you ladies.
Someone has to do the hard math, for engineering, science, and finance. Someone has to pick up heavy stuff. And someone has to fight bad guys and wild animals and all the other scary things you people flee from.
Someone has to provide genetic diversity.
And be assured, bad behavior by one group always provokes a backlash. Don't be too surprised if we see a return to "the bad old days." It won't be pretty.
At the very least, men will start seriously rethinking the concept of marriage. We won't be so stupid forever!!

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Wow! I feel bad for that guy. I betcha he's been on the receiving end of some feminazi behaviour. Behind the passion in his words was a big undercurrent of bitterness and pain. Poor fella. That isn't exactly the perspective I want to teach my son though. We are Christians and I want to encourage him to find himself a good Christian girl who isn't going to treat him like crap, as well as teaching him how to be a good husband and father. So hopefully he will have the sense to pick a sweet, kind girl rather than some crazy feminazi like the women described in that blog!

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Let me ask something that I am truly curious about:

You mention your "son"...do you HAVE a son? Or are speaking of a "future" son? If you do have a son, were you, (or are you), married to his mother? If you do NOT have a son, HOW do you plan on "getting" a son without marrying someone? Are you going to knock up some girls and pay child support? Are you hoping to get custody? How is this gonna work? And how do you propose talking about the "horrors" of marriage without making it sound like you're bashing his mom?
Also, realize that you can talk 'til you're blue in the face, but love is a very powerful force, and social expectations can be even MORE powerful.

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