Will Someone Pls. Read My Hormone Results-Female Low on Testosterone

Oh, kittywitty, thank you so much. I'm nervous already...I made the appointment for this Thurs. morning.

Knowing exactly what I'm asking for helps a lot.

I want the cream, I have read enough and heard enough that I know that.

I really hope he goes with this and does this right.

I'm hoping that the T will help with my extreme low mood as well as about a dozen other symptoms I have.

Please keep me posted on your hormonal issues and I'll let you know what happens with me.

Thanks again, dear.

Hugs,
Salty
 
Oh, kittywitty, what a pain that was! He really had no clue, did he? Sorry you had to go through all that. I know how frustrating it is!

Have you been to someone else yet? What's the latest with you? Fill me in when you can.

Hugs,
Salty
 
Hi, kittywitty, I started the T cream May 10th. My gyn said I might notice something around the 3rd week.

The post on here scared me about the T not getting into her system...even by injection. I wish she would write.

I'm not skimpy now on the pea-size...before I was afraid I would be putting too much...now I just want it to work.

Sorry you are blah, too. Hope you feel better soon.

Hugs,
Salty
 
Hi, salty :-)

I'm not really familiar with lamictal. However, since lexapro is an ssri antidepressant, it could hinder the effectiveness of your cream because, as I've said before, ssri's lower testosterone. Your doctor may try to refute this claim, even though there's plenty of information to the contrary all over the net. One has to only do a search and they'll find tons of information about it. Regarding that post, I was actually more freaked out by the side effects she said she had, being that I'm sensitive to things. I saw an endocrinologist today and I'll be getting my hormones checked again over the next few weeks. I'll most likely need the T cream and I'm still a little scared after what that post said. Anyway, I really hope you're feeling better soon. You sound like such a nice person, salty. Thinking of you. :-)
 
Ferritin means your 'iron stores'. I don't understand why some doctors only check TSH. That is precisely how i ended up in the trouble i'm in.

If your doctor is willing, next time you have a blood test get all things possible checked. Also do the blood test first thing in the morning.

It would be good if they could check your cortisol levels. Low/high cortisol can result out of any nuraber of things, but it's common with thyroid sufferers.

Not sure if i mentioned before, estrogen excess lists as it's 'moderate' symptoms both low thyroid and adrenal issues. On the Thyroid board quite a lot of people have the hormone, thyroid and adrenal issues, along with low ferritin/Vit D/B12, quite a few have gluten intolerance and digestive issues.
 
Hi Salty - FINALLY you have your cream!! I didn't think you would end up getting it this side of Christmas :D It's soooo frustrating when you have finally been given the go ahead to try something and then the pharmacy messes you about and you can't get it. I'm looking forward to see how you progress and i hope it's with great results. Just remeraber it might not work over night as hormones are such a delicate area to work with.

Hi Kittywitty - It's not just birth control pills, but now the Depo Provera shot is a mine field too. I know of a few people who have been on it for a while and all was great while they were on it, but once they came off it then all hell broke loose for them. This is why i get so upset when doctors hand these things out like lollies. My cousin's doctor didn't caution her on any of the negatives of Depo which can possibly occur. Now that she's been off it since Noveraber 2008, her perioRAB are no longer even existent and she's wondering whether they will ever come back, she has osteopenia (sp?), abnormal hair shedding and awful mooRAB. She's most worried about her hair and the osteopenia as her doctor never even mentioned that you can begin losing bone density from this drug.

There might be people who can go onto birth control, stay on it for years and years, come off it and be right as rain. Unfortunately this isn't the same case for everybody and looking at healtrabroadoarRAB they appear to be fast filling with women who have mysteriously developed a host of symptoms for which the doctors only want to give antidepressants as a remedy when it's hormone related. They don't even tell women that birth control depletes them of a range of vitamins and minerals. Sometimes the weird symptoms can be due to being deficient in various things, but mostly it's due to once stable hormones becoming unstable.

My hormones are a mess and i never even spent much time on birth control, mostly due to very bad side effects. I did have major stress though which has shown me that stress is another BIG factor within the hormone area.
 
Forgot to mention that the crying and emotional stuff doesn't go away once my period arrives, i'm as emotional as ever on the first and second day...and now i can't sleep because of the headache pain and gosh only knows why else...

i think by about the 3rd day into my cycle, i start to feel like myself again...had to add this--it's all driving me crazy and i can't do this every month...i thought after the operation, everything would be better.

Hugs to all, hope to be normal soon and able to w/b to posts--

Salty
 
Hey, salty :wave: I'm so sorry I haven't replied in awhile. I've been away for a bit, feeling poopy. I felt better once my period started. Now it's done, and I'm feeling slightly blah, but not like garbage, if that makes any sense. ;)

I voiced my concerns to the endo about side effects from the T. He said starting at a lower dose minimizes side effects.

What dose of Lexapro are you on? If you're on a low dose, it may not interfere with the T cream too much. No, I'm not on meRAB anymore. I've been off Prozac for over two years.

I can't remeraber, have you ever had your estrogen or progesterone checked? Too much or too little of one or the other can cause anxiety, depression, or mood swings. So, a bioidentical cream of one or the other may just do the trick and you may not need the Lexapro.

There are many, many people that suffer low testosterone from SSRI's. So, you're definitely not alone there. Don't know if that helps or not, but at least you know you aren't the only one. I'm not sure about other meRAB that lower T, but I think I've read that blood pressure lowering meRAB and meRAB for diabetes lower libido. So, maybe they lower T?

I totally understand your need to feel better, I'm right there with ya. The endo has ordered rounRAB of blood work including: estrogen, progesterone, testosterone, FSH, LH, TSH, T3, T4, prolactin, hemogram (anemia testing), liver enzymes, diabetes (runs in my family). I think that's everything. I can't be sure, though, because there's codes on there I can't understand. I'll ask the tech when I go to the lab. I'll be going on Friday to get most of it done, and next week for the progesterone. Hopefully, I'll figure out what's going on. I'm convinced that I have low thyroid because of the symptoms I'm having, but I guess time will tell.

You're so welcome, big {{{hugs}}} to you too.
 
I sure will, salty. It might be a little while, though. I still have to find a doctor that does saliva testing. The way money's going, though, I'll probably be stuck getting the blood test again unless I can get our insurance to cover the saliva ones. I know how you feel about the ovulating. The depression was the worst for me at that time. And, if it coincided with the full moon? It was bad, bad news. At that point, besides being depressed, I was also a raging psycho woman that snapped at everybody. My poor husband was ducking for cover. Thankfully, since being on progesterone, I've been pretty calm.
 
Mine has steadily gotten worse in the last few years. I was on the pill for 18 years. And, to add insult to injury, I was also on Prozac, which also lowers testosterone, for eight of those years. What kind of TRT therapy were you taking that gave you the side effects? Was it the cream? Was it a bioidentical one from a compounding pharmacy? Sorry for all the questions, I just want to know what I'm in for. I want to try the cream. I've heard that the creams have less potential for side effects because they go straight into the blooRABtream and don't have to go through the liver first like pills do. I really hope that's true. I've been on Wellbutrin before when I took Prozac and it did help but it made my hair fall out, increased my anxiety, and made me hear voices (that was the worst), definitely NOT worth it for me.
 
Thank you Audrey-B for that post. I have been taking zinc and magnesium so that's good.

I plan on starting to exercise someday soon so thanks for the info about keeping the workouts to less than 45 minutes.

I used to workout like crazy for way too long and then I'd always end up injuring my knees and eventually stopping the exercising.

I think 30 min's is what I'm going to try...I just have to get motivated to do it.

Thank you sooo much. You're the best!

Hugs,
Salty
 
I'm not sure of the difference between serum and plasma, but i do know it's not saliva. I do notice on some test results from the past it would say plasma and on certain things serum. But the information i posted was what i found two or so years ago and i kept a note of it in a book where i note done interesting and maybe useless information which might be needed one day :) I knew i had a hormone problem back then, but didn't know what so just kept a record of a lot of ellusive information which i'd not come across before. I've checked it off with my own doctor first to see what he says and he agreed with the time of day for testing hormones.
 
Kittywitty, I'm the exact same way...so irritable and I get sad too. Uggh!
I don't want you to be that way, but it's nice to know I'm not alone.

I'm glad the progest. is helping you and thank you for keeping me posted when you do go on the testost.

Take care.

Hugs,
Salty
 
salty -

I'm not surprised that he reacted that way. If they told everybody (especially men) that it lowered T, the makers of Lexapro would be broke. I don't think doctors like it when we educate ourselves. It takes away their 'power' that they think they have over us.
 
Hi Salty :) i know you are bursting to see your doctor, but maybe waiting the extra time will be of benefit. I read the replies to your post on the thyroid board and i think you got some very good replies and information which you should be able to do something with. Especially the reply which commented on how the hormones can change just before your period and even though your estrogen/progesterone are fine normally, maybe there is such a big shift at that point in time and it's causing all your horrible PMS symptoms. I'd say that sounRAB about right as your symptoms do relate to a hormone imabalance, other than simply being low in testosterone.

Hi kittywitty :) I once bought Vitex from the chemist and i thought it made my perioRAB go heavier. It was some years ago when i wasn't getting any help from doctors and decided i needed to at least do something for myself rather than sit around waiting. I didn't know which Vitex to buy as there were different strengths and i didnt know whether to take it just during my period or all the time. Different containers gave different instructions and different dosages. In the end i gave up.

The Vitex i'm taking now is called Premular, contains 30 tablets and is 180mg. I take one a day, one hour before/after meals at same time of day. I'm also on additional herbal mixture from my naturopath for my other monthly issues, like extended bleeding after period is finished, ovulation bleeding which continues till my period starts, also to keep my perioRAB regular and lighter as they had gotten very heavy at one point.

So far it's all been working, just that i'm getting the bloating nearly 2 weeks prior to my period. Other than that, my cycles start and finish on time, aren't heavy either.

I can't recall if you had your adrenals checked? Most people with thyroid issues have adrenal issues too. It's important to keep a close eye on what they are doing. My adrenals produced too little cortisol, then i took supplements and my levels came up nice. I stopped the supplements and now i'm back down low. Obviously something is stopping normal adrenal function.

In your case, i don't think its the thyroid meRAB which are not right for you, it's the doctor who isn't right and doesn't know what he/she is doing, but is merely following a text book or what they learnt at University, instead of catering your meRAB to your individual situation/symptoms.

It takes a lot of time to regulate the thyroid with meRAB. I don't know how long you have been at it. I began meRAB just over a year ago and my doctor is still attempting to regulate my figures. He checks my results every 6 weeks at this point so that i dont go too low/high. He also rechecks my Vit D, ferritin too.

With the Vit E and selenium, you need to be careful. Get tested first to see how your levels are. Taking these things if you aren't very deficient can give you negative symptoms too. I've been on selenium for a year now and it hasn't done a thing for my thyroid antibodies and i see no changes at all. I've read that too much vitamin E can be dangerous too, so be careful how you go about it. Also, bood tests for certain minerals/vitamins are not very accurate and can give a false high/low. This is the case for selenium and my doctor told me to be wary of selenium blood tests. To get your daily quota of selenium you can eat 4 Brazil nuts a day, but they need to be from Brazil as they still have decent selenium deposits in their soils, unlike most other countries.

Also, have you had your iodine levels checked? The best test for this is a urine iodine test. Mine was very low and i'm on pure iron for over a year now.

Good luck and let us know how you get on and how you feel being off the meRAB. Just make sure that you get regular check ups to be sure your thyroid isn't getting worse. Also, it's not just the thyroid which can get affected, but all those other areas. This is why it's so important to try and get the thyroid ship shape so other areas can begin repairing themselves.

It's hard, i know, but sometimes you just have to view it like driving up a very big hill in a very slow bus :)
 
Hi Salty :) Hoping i'm not repeating myself, but with your estrogen testing, did they do the tests in the morning and during the correct day/s of your cycle? This can make a difference.

I happened to be going through some books today and as i was flicking through i came across a story on a lady who sounded as though she had the type of PMS you are experiencing. She said what helped her was eliminating all salt from her diet for a whole month and it helped her with the PMS. I don't know whether it's that easy, but then again there is an awful lot of salf in all the things we buy, except for totally natural food. I have also read many years ago that anything with sugar in it is simply evil for PMS too. Have you ever tried modifying your diet to cater for PMS?

As for me, i'm not out of the wooRAB yet. I'm fortunate that these herbs are helping balancing my menstrual cycles. As for taking the vitex to help with PMS, Vitex can be bought in healthfood stores, but it might take a couple of months to work and i take it daily. I do know my PMS stomach bloating has stopped after taking it for a month and no more sore breasts either. This month i didn't get the teary emotions, but then i didn't even have time. My dad hasn't been well and i went to stay with my parents to help them out.

On one of the threaRAB on here someone did mention sugar in the diet helping to keep estrogen levels higher. I've also read somewhere of a lady who reduced all saturated fats and it lowered her estrogen. It's hard to know what is right and what isn't. Personally, in my case, i believe it's had a lot to do with stress over a long period of time and i think stress affects most of our hormones adversely.

Take care and fingers crossed all goes well at your july doctors appointment :)
 
I just have to post this and then go back soon and go over all the other posts and write more.

I am a complete mess about a week before my period, can barely function--it's sooo hard--I cry all the time, am extremely down, things are foggy, I want to be in bed...

then it gets a little easier right before my period arrives, i crave carbs (and eating more actually makes me feel better because i dont get enough calories when i'm so down)...then the first few days of my period i start to come out of the hormonal control and then i can function.

I thought the T cream was going to help with this, but it has not so far.

It's a total PMS nightmare! I am waiting for my cycle to start any day now so I can start to feel better.

Hugs to all of you and I'll write soon...oh, Audrey-B, I had no idea I couldn't take the iron with the calcium and zinc. I've been doing it like that everyday...no wonder i still feel crappy.

I am going to post quickly about it on the vit. board.

Salty
 
Hi Audrey-B, just getting to reply to this message of yours. Yes, i've been taking the zinc all along, but had no idea not to take it with my iron.

As I found out, I not only feel awful before period time, but also during. Not much has changed since my operation to remove the fibroid.

I'm being re-tested for the T at the end of July as well as the ferritin and vit.d.

I'm feeling a little bit from the T cream now (i only know this by a slight increase in libido--which i could give a darn about, all i want is to feel better mentally, emotionally and physically).

I am still on 1%. I have been putting it on as much as possible right after a hot bath while my pores are open--don't know if that's why it's starting to work or just time.

I can't afford a homeopath or a naturopath--can barely afford my meRAB and co-pays for the drs.

I had stopped exercising during the hell i went through, then I hurt my neck so it's not comfortable exercising right now but i know i have to get back to doing it.

I'm worried about the minocycline i'm on--hoping that won't do anything to harm the T cream...i'm also concerned about it with my vit's and supplements so i don't take it at the same time.

As i've stated before i'm having a hard time knowing what to take with what...i still haven't gotten any posts on the vit. board.

It's a pain not being able to take my iron with my other vit's and supplements.

You certainly have been through a lot lately. What's going on now? Did your "emotions stay more or less close to normal" druing your period?

Let me know how you are doing.

Hugs,
Salty
 
Hi Kittywitty - yes, Free t3 and t4 is different to simply t3 and t4. I still dont understand a lot about the science behind thyroid testing as there is so much to learn, but asking for your "free's" is more valuable to interpret your individual situation.

Most definitely it's important to test the Thyroid Antibodies to see whether or not you have an auto immune thyroid disease eg: Hashimoto's or Graves (not sure whether there are others).

Unfortunately, like you said, too many doctors simply want to look at TSH. It's so maddening!! So many poor people with awful symptoms which affect their everyday lives, living in misery, losing jobs, affecting relationships.... and doctors simply wanting to shove antidepressants down their throats!! thank heavens for the internet is all i can say.

Another important factor often left out is the adrenal function and how much cortisol they produce. Even after a person is put on meRAB and still complain of tiredness their doctors often don't check their adrenals. In fact my adrenal symptoms have been worse than my thyroid symptoms. Once we get my adrenals where they are supposed to be i simply have no other major symptoms.

I'm glad you are finding relief from the Vit E and Selenium. Keep to the safe doses though as too much of both of these can be the same as too little. Also keep monitoring your ferritin, Vit D and B12. They are all important for our adrenal and thyroid health, among other things.

I on the other hand have had to go back onto cortisol supplementation. I got really good for a while there and my doctor stopped the supplements and now i've hit bottom again. I'm so tired and wake up in the mornings feeling like i've got a headache behind my eyes and tension in the head. When i first wake i'm too scare to move my head as it feels like it's paralysed.

Today i didn't go to work and went to see a regular doctor to get a sick leave certificate for work. I asked her to check my blood pressure and i was shocked to see it up at 140/95. My blood pressure has been doing weird things lately. I know the last time it was up was when my dad was sick and i had to do a heap of stuff to help my parents out, but this time round there is no real reason. I have read that blood pressure and cholesterol issues can also be a symptom of hypo or hyper thyroid illnesses too. Would be just my luck!!
 
Back again...can't sleep, am crying--don't know what to do--Jill & everyone--my test results show i am not low in estrogen or progesterone...

there's got to be a solution...can't do this again next month. There's got to be a PMS solution.

Hugs,
Salty
 
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