Will CGI films ever fully replace hand drawn films?

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:confused: Does anyone think the hand drawn feature film is dead? With disney closing up the hand drawn animation department to follow the CGI route, I fear all other animation companies will do the same. But the real question is, is it not just the stories of the current CGI films which are better (not including FF: Spirits Within), and not necesseraly the animation style itself?
 
I'm sure pianists and guitarist were thinking the same thing during the 80's when electronica came along, and every one thought that synthesisers were the dog's danglies.

I think that at the moment the flashy animation effects are created, then a story is thought up to utilise them. When the opposite happens, then CGI might make more sense than traditional animation.
 
No I don't think it's dead yet at all.

There's quite a few films that employ both CGI and handrawn animation.

But to be technically correct, handrawn films have been made using CG software for a long time already, due to the process involved.
But I get what you mean.

Sometimes a 3D rendered film may produce mistakes that need to be corected using handrawn techniques.
Sometimes it's quicker to use some handrawn effects in a scene, and other times it's more efficient to use 3D.

Nowadays both techniques are often used in the same film to compliment each other.
It's not a competition, the studios will just use the cheapest, and/or most effective technique available to them.

It shouldn't matter though, because it's the end results that count. As long as an artist can acheive the particular look that he/she wants,..and you enjoy what's been created,..then everyone's happy.

It's not really a competition of techniques, because it's up to the people making the film what methoRAB and processes they want to use.
They just have more options available to them. One doesn't cancel the other one out.
It's like feeling that pencils are in competition with pens once the ink pen is invented. They can co-exist with each other fine.
 
Probably. CGI can look like hand drawn animation, if that's what is required (South Park, for example) so there's little point in going to the expense of hand drawing each frame.
 
Yes, a lot of stuff appears completely handrawn, but actually uses CGI for it's 2D effects.
Computer technology is pretty much always used in what appears to be completely handrawn animation. Lots of work on frame sequences for things such as colour correction in the computer, or adding additional 2D effects that appear in the background such as sparkling fairy dust for example etc, or just simple touching up effects using graphic tablets to correct certain frames.

I get the feeling that some people have a romantic image of the traditional handrawn look of 2D animation being one person who lovingly hand draws each individula frame.
The truth is that the key animators draw the key frames, and many (sometimes hundreRAB) of young artists have to draw the inbetween frames, and have the pressure of a deadline to meet.
I can imagine it being almost like slave labour for many young artists, as they will put the donkey work in, but it's the key animators who'll get all the credit.
I imagine that technology arriving to take the donkey work out of the process is a blessed relief to many artists.

Even in the golden age of Disney they used to "cheat" with technology where they could.
In some of Disney's classics such as Snow White, or Sleeping Beauty, they used to trace drawings over film frames of actors moving. It's called rotoscoping. It's the equivalant of using motion capture for 3D animation nowadays.

You'll still always need artists to draw things by hand, even for 3D animated movies. You need to hire the artists who actually design characters and produce the hand drawn representations that the 3D model versions are built from.
A 3D character, or an environment, is always created based on the designs from the original artwork produced using traditional methoRAB.

It's not like technology does all the work in 3D animated movies. They still hire traditional 2D artists and designers,..and even the 3D work is art in it's own right that has to be crafted by talented artists.
 
It's dead for Disney - they said they're never going to make anymore 2D films.. quite sad really.. Ferngully was a nice non-disney/2d film..

RegarRAB,
 
The question should be, when will CGI replace live action, i.e real people?

pr0n will happen in about 2015, 10 years from now, then we'll be going "oooh" at the 2020 equivalent of Toy Story, where we can't see the difference between CGI and people but we know it isn't quite right, by 2025 Hollywood will implode because the actors aren't worth the money and by 2030 nearly everything will be done on a computer, except for French arty movies (which I like).
 
No CG will not replace traditional animated films..........just look at how popular the Asian animated films are like spirited away and etc.......They all take nearl as much in the box-office in Asia as any other blockbuster!

So no........
 
Surprisingly I watched for the first time last night Final Fantasy and I thought the animation was amazing.

At the end of the day it is going to be how much the movie costs, it costs less to make CGI and less time to make then we will see more of these movies being made.

I know this is sad but I love the old Disney movies, I have got a collection of them, I like the the 2 drawings but if companies find them too time consuming then they won't make them. At the end of the day it is all about money - not about the quality of a movie.
 
But look on the bright side.......Nearly all of Pixar's films are what animated and general films suppose to be.......enjoyable and quality!

Pixar is the new Disney.

Besides......CG films are not all done be computers, all of pixar films are hand drawn first and put together to see he general layout of the movie before anything is animated. There is more hand work then computer when it comes down to CG.......which is pretty ironic.
 
Unfortunately there is a little confusion of terminology. As has been said, most animated movies have been 'CG' for quite some time - by being animated by computer. Many people interpret the move to CG meaning the end to all 2d movies - this is not the case, and this is not the move Disney is making, it's simply a change in technique.
 
Hi Guys,

Following on from your post, check out http://bit.ly/32xkC.

That links through to TotalFilm website who yesterday wrote an article about the 20 worst moments of CGI in film.

Quite amusing and shows that just cos a film has cgi in it, doesnt mean it'll be good! :o

Dave
 
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