Why not computer neutral redistricting in all states?

BobbyD

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The software design might follow this scenario
(remember I am NOT a software designer!):

It would start with laying a grid of equal area, roughly
square cells, equal to the current number of districts,
over a map of the state.
Starting with the cells of highest voter density, the
computer would shrink cell sizes to an area which
contains the appropriate number of voters for a
representative district. Cells adjacent to the shrinking
cell would grow or shrink accordingly, until they
contained the right number of voters to qualify as
a district.

nels96
www.tenurecorrupts,com
 
Well, I am a software designer, and I'm not sure what I think of the idea. The algorithm used to design it would undoubtedly be able to influence the results of countless elections, and it would have to be the target of much scrutiny. As most politicians are not versed in algorithm design, they would find it very difficult to understand the problems with such an algorithm and order that they be fixed.

For example, if we took a look at a hypothetical city: let's say this city was primarily Democrat and is very densely populated, and let's say the surrounding area is primarily Republican but very sparsely populated. For example, if we used a growing/shrinking algorithm like you described, we would start out with a bunch of districts that are too large over the Democratic city, and a bunch that are too small over the lower-population Republican areas.

To fix this, we might choose one of the following two options: We might take some of the too-large Democrat districts and send some of that population to combine with the too-small republican districts. This might result in less districts with a lot of Republican representation because they all got additional members from the Democratic city interior.

On the other hand, we might combine two too-small primarily Republican districts with one another and split up two too-big Democrat districts into new districtions, which would result in a set of very heavily Republican and very heavily Democrat districts. The Republicans could have more districts using this algorithm.

So, I guess the real question would be: if a district is too small, do we give it new members from the highly populated regions, or do we combine it with another too-small district?

Because politicians are not qualified to understand how the intricacies of such an algorithm work, I don't think they'd be qualified to recognize why an algorithm heavily favors representation for the opposite party and suggest a suitable replacement. We might have the same district favoritism that we see today, except politicians would be less able to recognize it.

Is it a good idea to implement that sort of thing? I don't really know...

Anyhow, I've attached two simple pictures (designed in MS Paint, yeah!) of the situation I described above which show how I imagine the same area might be split into 10 Democrat districts and 4 Republican districts, or 6 Democrat and 8 Republican districts using two different algorithms.

On the other hand, I guess the same thing happens today all the time, so I don't know if this sort of algorithm is a good idea or not. I just mean that it won't necessarily get rid of the problem, and we'll no longer even be able to point the finger at the people we elected. Perhaps a better solution might be to draw more attention to the issue of our districts and try to show the people when politicians are doing unfair redistricting.
 
Hi Javier,
Thanks for the thoughtful response. I think your reply might be different if I furnish the following more detailed scenario:

Currently, a typical Congressional representative district
has a population of roughly 600,000 people (nat
 
Yes, we could develop software to redistrict. No, we will never see it.

The redistricting we have seen is largely the result of perots run at the presidence. He stepped in with his own money and made a good run. Both the democrats and the republics learned a good lesson from this. The result was campaign finance reform, whcih gaurantees that another Ross perot (a canidat using primarily his pwn money, his corporate funRAB, and big ticket contributions to run) can never again happen. The redistricting has helped cement our 2 pary system in place. Neither side of the isle wants to see that end.
 
Hi daewoo,

What does Perot and Campaign Finance have to do with redistricting? Or the 2 party system?

I want computerized randomized neutral redistricting to mix up the partisanship in all districts so that each party has to really compete in order to get elected. To quote Schwarzenegger:
"In the last election, all 150 seats held by both parties did not change hanRAB. What kind of democracy is that?"

Computerized redistricting will improve that.

nels96 (www.tenurecorrupts.com)
 
Software like that should be relatively inexpensive to create if population data is easy to obtain. But I guess I just don't see why this would be better than our current method of districting. How does redistricting prevent third-party candidates from running, and why is it bad that no seats changed hanRAB in our last election?
 
Our latest redistricting push is a direct result of perots run at the white house. We have now redistricted so every district holRAB a decided advantage for one side or the other (dems or republicans). The districts are now defines specifically to break up independant "strongholRAB".
 
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