Why do so many civilians, push a stigma of ignorance on the men and women in the military? Why can't the people who treat all of us like we are stupid, just admit they won't join because they are scared? Why do they put down the people who have given lives, marriages, and time with their families to protect them? Sorry, long question. I just don't understand.
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Why is there a stigma with joining the military?
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devildawg367
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There really isn't a stigma. Many people who never served are afraid they couldn't do it.
As far as on this site, it seems that most people here are just kids trying to give people a hard time.
As far as on this site, it seems that most people here are just kids trying to give people a hard time.
There is a certain stigma. I am in the reserves, and I go to a major University, in a college town and I remember one incident, while I was in uniform for ROTC, some of my classmates called me "a baby-killer." I really do not understand why, I think they just see the shaved head and uniform, and they automatically think about the worst of the military. Honestly though, our society needs both sides in order to stay balanced, so we do not end up like either Nazi Germany(too militaristic) or France before and during WW2(too p*ssy).
Jam_Til_Impact
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It's mostly from the more liberal base of the country.
Too many of them believe that their freedoms are there because it's just the right thing, and everyone does the right thing because it's the right thing.
They fail to understand that freedom needs to be protected, and not by lawyers. Lawyers can handle the civil cases, but the fact remains that there are very bad people out there who want to do very bad things to you, me, our families, our friends, and simply because we are Americans.
We are beginning to se this even at the level of the president who thinks that lawyers can handle terrorists. It's not a law enforcement job, it's a military job, a diplomacy job. Military force is the last line of diplomacy.
Too many of them believe that their freedoms are there because it's just the right thing, and everyone does the right thing because it's the right thing.
They fail to understand that freedom needs to be protected, and not by lawyers. Lawyers can handle the civil cases, but the fact remains that there are very bad people out there who want to do very bad things to you, me, our families, our friends, and simply because we are Americans.
We are beginning to se this even at the level of the president who thinks that lawyers can handle terrorists. It's not a law enforcement job, it's a military job, a diplomacy job. Military force is the last line of diplomacy.
imported_laughter_every_day
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First, you assume you know how others feel about you. Bad assumption. Second, you assume that all people feel the same way. Incredibly bad assumption. You are perpetuating the myth of stupid service members. If you want to know what some specific person feels and why, ask that person.
Maybe the "stigma" exists because different people value different things. Did you ever think of that? Or are you too busy assuming the people that are against toting guns and hurting people are just "scared"?
To join the military means that you are okay with killing people, because you are told to. Every human being has their own story and reasons for doing the things they do. That stands true for both sides of a war, not just one. It is easy and simple-minded to look at a war as "good guys" vs. "bad guys", but that is simply not true. There are many people that are fighting wars to protect their families or because they are forced to by their government. These in many cases are good people that would not hurt someone by choice. But when you're in the military, it is your job to defeat the enemy. There is no room to weed out the good people from the bad.
For those of us who understand the value of life and that all men have the right to live, we choose to not take up arms against other human beings.At least not unless forced to do so in an extreme situation.
That is not a fear-based decision. It is a personal decision based on morals. For some people it is a religious choice. Jesus would not kill another man, no matter what that man did to him, his family, his country, etc. He believed the only judge was God. Personally, this is not my religion, but it is a good example of why some people are so strongly against war.
For me, it is simply logic. I will not hurt, maim, or kill a stranger just because an authority figure orders me to. And I think it takes a certain kind of person to be willing to do that. I will never be one and I will never support the concept of being one. It is bad for the soul.
To join the military means that you are okay with killing people, because you are told to. Every human being has their own story and reasons for doing the things they do. That stands true for both sides of a war, not just one. It is easy and simple-minded to look at a war as "good guys" vs. "bad guys", but that is simply not true. There are many people that are fighting wars to protect their families or because they are forced to by their government. These in many cases are good people that would not hurt someone by choice. But when you're in the military, it is your job to defeat the enemy. There is no room to weed out the good people from the bad.
For those of us who understand the value of life and that all men have the right to live, we choose to not take up arms against other human beings.At least not unless forced to do so in an extreme situation.
That is not a fear-based decision. It is a personal decision based on morals. For some people it is a religious choice. Jesus would not kill another man, no matter what that man did to him, his family, his country, etc. He believed the only judge was God. Personally, this is not my religion, but it is a good example of why some people are so strongly against war.
For me, it is simply logic. I will not hurt, maim, or kill a stranger just because an authority figure orders me to. And I think it takes a certain kind of person to be willing to do that. I will never be one and I will never support the concept of being one. It is bad for the soul.