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...discussed on R&S? Many religious and/or scientific people think that spirituality and modern science are separated domains. For religious people, considering spirituality from a scientific perspective can only remove the essential of the spiritual life, which in their view must be free from the limits of modern science. For scientific people, considering spirituality from a scientific perspective is fine, if it is done properly, but they assume that the fundamental and very much needed value of spirituality will disappear in the process. Their belief is that a great and very much needed spirituality is not in the range of modern science. So, scientific and religious people seem to agree on this separation, and the justification is actually similar.
However, a scientific spiritual view is simply that the potential of the brain can be improved so that we are awake within and this corresponds to a new physiological state of the brain that can be scientifically measured and has practical benefits in life that can also be scientifically measured. For scientific evidence, just search on meditation in Google Scholar. Avoid general search engines because then you will find all kinds of weird web sites with no scientific value.
Some people that declare themselves as scientific, especially those who hold a strong materialistic view, reject this spiritual view by saying that any scientific research that show the possibility of such a fundamental improvement of the brain potential is only misguided science. These people are just closing their eyes and want to believe that scientific research can only show that meditation helps to relax and perhaps brings some health benefits, something that perhaps they think they can have without meditation. Good luck to them, but if you don't have the experience of full brain coherence, then you just don't have it and only Transcendental Meditation can bring this experience, not jogging or playing tennis, this is a scientific fact. (It is also a scientific fact that Olympic gold medallists have a similar brain coherence as long term TM practitioners. Yet, this brain coherence isn't created when we do sports if you don't have it before.)
In a related manner, the greatest opponents to this very much needed scientific spiritual view are often religious people that define themselves as spiritual. Their belief is that the spiritual is the range of God which is somehow within the materialistic view (somewhere out there), but His an exception because He doesn't follow the laws of nature. In their belief, to meditate we only need to talk within ourselves to what we believe is God, which somehow can hear us. Their belief is challenged by the concept that, actually, it all depends on the physiology of the brain. It is only a normal and yet improved brain functioning. Their is no God as in their belief. There is just the physiology. If there are gods, they can only be mechanisms in the physiology, which are responsible for our view of the world.
Now, if there are really intelligent and scientific people on R&S who care about improving life, why is it that this scientific and very much needed spiritual view so little discussed here?
However, a scientific spiritual view is simply that the potential of the brain can be improved so that we are awake within and this corresponds to a new physiological state of the brain that can be scientifically measured and has practical benefits in life that can also be scientifically measured. For scientific evidence, just search on meditation in Google Scholar. Avoid general search engines because then you will find all kinds of weird web sites with no scientific value.
Some people that declare themselves as scientific, especially those who hold a strong materialistic view, reject this spiritual view by saying that any scientific research that show the possibility of such a fundamental improvement of the brain potential is only misguided science. These people are just closing their eyes and want to believe that scientific research can only show that meditation helps to relax and perhaps brings some health benefits, something that perhaps they think they can have without meditation. Good luck to them, but if you don't have the experience of full brain coherence, then you just don't have it and only Transcendental Meditation can bring this experience, not jogging or playing tennis, this is a scientific fact. (It is also a scientific fact that Olympic gold medallists have a similar brain coherence as long term TM practitioners. Yet, this brain coherence isn't created when we do sports if you don't have it before.)
In a related manner, the greatest opponents to this very much needed scientific spiritual view are often religious people that define themselves as spiritual. Their belief is that the spiritual is the range of God which is somehow within the materialistic view (somewhere out there), but His an exception because He doesn't follow the laws of nature. In their belief, to meditate we only need to talk within ourselves to what we believe is God, which somehow can hear us. Their belief is challenged by the concept that, actually, it all depends on the physiology of the brain. It is only a normal and yet improved brain functioning. Their is no God as in their belief. There is just the physiology. If there are gods, they can only be mechanisms in the physiology, which are responsible for our view of the world.
Now, if there are really intelligent and scientific people on R&S who care about improving life, why is it that this scientific and very much needed spiritual view so little discussed here?