Why E60 isn't so popular?

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^being in the usa doesnt mean you have to use a phone with 850 @@
 
It means it's a wise idea to have a phone with 850. Even T-Mo has a bunch of 850 roaming you'll miss out on with a 1900-only phone. Still not a requirement in all areas, though.
 
well my last 850 phone was the 8801. I have been using n91, 903sh and now n93 (all with no 850) and i m fine...but yeah i understand everyone's situation is different.
 
This is the phone I have been WAITING for - all the rest of the high-end features WITHOUT the camera, since I can't have one at WORK!

GREAT display! The only drawback is that now TMO's Unlimited MMS is WORTHLESS since their 'compression' of pics means I see thumbnail-size photos on my screen.

BTW, has anyone else been experiencing the 'Nokia handshake' (formerly known as the 'Blue screen of death' for Windows 98 users)? I've had the E60 reboot on it's own about 4-5 times since I've had it (about 2 weeks now). Since this is my first Symbian device, is this considered 'normal' when trying to do too many multiple task?
 
BTW, my reception issues in Atlanta turned out to be the area in general. It had nothing to do with 850. We bought 2 phones with 850 directly from T-Mobile for my dad and his business partners and they had just as few bars as I did.

Therefor, I stick to my argument that you don't need 850 in the US! (provided you don't travel to lame places of service interruption like Montana or other lame desert places. Montana's lame.)
 
1900 only service isn't very good here, as the former Blue network just doesn't cover much area. In Tulsa, the Orange network (and Blue at 850 for that matter) had lots of dead spots, but now with integration, they complement each other nicely.

You could also be putting a damper on your EDGE speeds, since you have less channels to choose from if the network is dual band in your area, meaning you may be stuck on a more congested 1900 channel when 850 is available.

If you're on T-Mo, and you're in a native T-Mo market, 850 will do absolutely nothing for you, it will only help if you're on another carrier. It's much different for us Cingular users.

It's also different here in that if I did have T-Mo here with a 1900 only phone, I'd have coverage in the cities of NW Arkansas, in Tulsa, and along most of the highway between the two, but I'd be out of service for several miles in Eastern OK along US412, where Cingular's 1900 network drops out and one has to roam on Dobson's 850 network.

In Arkansas, GSM1900 is strictly an in town thing, as is CDMA1900 for that matter.

All that said, it really depends on your carrier, your location, and your traveling habits. If you live in a city well covered by T-Mo (or Cingular at 1900 for that matter), and mainly fly to other cities similarly well covered, you won't be missing a thing without 850. If you drive a lot, you may well miss out on much coverage, especially if you don't keep to the Interstates. Obviously, there are places with rural GSM1900 coverage, but a lot of it is 850 only.

Some people choose to deal with it by having two phones, one nice 900/1800/1900 triband and one not so nice 850/1900 phone. I prefer to have 850 on all my phones since I depend on 850 coverage a lot.
 
Aside from band issues, most of the people do not lack for money to spend on phones, so the extra $100-200 on the E61 or E70 isn't a big deal when they get to play with their more interesting form factor and keyboards.
 
The reason is simple. You cannot make VoIP calls with this phone while you can with the e61 and the e70. For some reason Nokia has not updated the firmware yet. They promised to do it in 2006 but they never did. A lot of people bought that phone for its WIFI and VoIP features and later discovered that they had fallen for a bait and switch advertising trick. When people spend days trying to make a device do what it is supposed to do and discover that they wasted their time, they loose their enthusiasm.
 
I got an E60 and have account with Truphone, Gizmo (via Pboxes) & Sipgate & am able to make Voip calls to my folks in North America & France. It's very Voip capable. All it need is proper configuration. A bit tedious but very worthwhile.
 
I love my E60. I'm sure that many forum members would change their mind about this device if they had a chance to use it for couple of weeks.
 
E60 is actually one of the best reviewed devices from the various major review sites, average user rating, etc I've looked at. About the only major drawback usually raised is the lack of camera, but that really depends on the user's need. Personally, I can't stand crappy cameraphone pics (even N93 is disappointing; N95 looks promising but lacks optical zoom) so no camera is a plus.

Features aside, E60 is definitely one of the best built Nokia phones in recent years: very solid, great keyboard, usable joystick. However, it seems that Nokia never made enough E60s to meet demand. It's much sought after in some Asian countries but supply has been short and rumor has it that production was stopped some time ago.
 
I've read it somewhere that this phone is actually aimed for business users. I personally think the lack of camera kills it though.
 
- No QWERTY, The E61 has QWERTY plus everything the E60 has
- Not that small, E50 is smaller
- No Camera, E70 and E50 has camera

I would choose the other E-series.
 
Not everybody needs qwerty, and E61 doesn't have 352x416 display, and it's significantly wider (the very reason i didn't get it). Also, E60 is virtually problem free in each and every way (well, except for weak battery).
E50 is smaller, but all the other S60 phones are not (5500 maybe).
Camera on E50 and E70 is a joke. Actually except for N93, N73 and N95 all the other S60 Nokias have weak cameras, that are just not good enough to be used on a daily basis.
 
I would like to rebut this argument against the E50's Camera.

It is definately not a joke and takes very good shots.

I use the camera daily, and post pix Ive taken on my blog. It works great. However I do not print the pictures I take, and so thats where the quality comes in....

For my purposes of viewing pictures on the computer, blogging and emailing them to friends, or pix messaging its a winner.
 
Fair enough. I guess i didn't express myself right. It all depends on what you want from your pics. Personally if they are not good enough to display on your computer screen, or print then i don't really want them. At the same time the premium you have to pay for a decent camera on your phone is often more than the price of a stand alone digicam. If i recall correctly i paid less for my E60 and really nice compact digicam, then i would pay for N73 at the time. And picture quality is incomparable.
To each his own.
 
I've actually used triband phones (no 850) across US with Cingular, and coverage seems decent from California and Florida to Boston and Chicago. Which makes me wonder if the 850 band is that essential, even for someone staying in US the whole time.
 
I never owned a quad-band phone, and have never experienced any reception issues ever. I know that for some 850 band is a must, i'm just pointing that others simply don't need it.
 
Sometimes I go to high rises, and on the first couple of floors with a tri-band, there is no reception what so ever (at least with Cingy). 850 penetrates buildings better than 1900.
 
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