Why don't they make TWO endings for movies !! ?

two endings were made for Layer Cake i believe. the actual ending shown, wasn't meant to be filmed. but it fitted better so they wrote it in and filmed it without the producer's permission.;)
good film, recommend it. :)
 
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Originally Posted by Zincubus
I know a lot of people may disagree with me but it is MY opinion.





Why ??

It is said to try and encourage the less tolerant of you to be MORE tolerant of others and their opinions - seems straight forward enough .
 
Because it is a clear statement that people are wrong to debate your opinion and shows the typical internet forum disregard for argumentation theory.

Equal to a persons right to an opinion is the right to have the opinion criticised and debated.

That statement is not used to show tolerance or encourage tolerance, it's more a defensive statement from people who do not like to be criticised. I've heard stories of some forums encouraging flaming to stop people using that statement.
 
I would like to agree on No Country For Old Men and maybe to a lesser degree on There Will Be Blood, but what an ending anyway.

In American Beauty you knew at the start of the film what the end would encompass anyway so I don't know how they could have filmed an alternate ending without filming an alternate beginning. Of course the end of the film fit in with the tone of the film anyway in my opinion.

Gladiator was a film that made sense for the hero to die because again the tone of the film and just historical sense would make it quite unbelievable to have a lowly gladiator take over the Roman empire in a fight in an ampitheatre.

I understand that you may have an opinion that differs to that of the film maker but you can't say they are some of your favourite films until the end when the hero has to die or something sad happens. This to me just sounRAB like you maybe didn't fully understand the intent of the screenwriter in the story without sounding too pretentious on my part.

If an alternate ending is filmed and put on the DVD then there is a reason why it wasn't used as the real ending. Also killing off a hero in my opinion is sometimes done by someone who doesn't want to be strong armed into making a cash cow sequel thereby keeping his or her vision as unsullied as possible.

Movies which end on a sour note are few and far between as they get people walking out feeling slightly betrayed that a character they just invested 80+ minutes into just died in front of their eyes. When done well though the death of a major character like a hero can give a film a lot more impact than just a typical ride off into the sunset kind of ending.

This is just my opinion though. :)
 
There is no tolerance in this place anyway! The poster was saying that because they knew people might rush in and call them an idiot, etc, merely for having a different opinion to them. So if you feel your head neeRAB to explode, well you just go right along and do that.

Going back to the actual topic, DVD's often do have alternate endings on them, which I think is fine. I bought the film 1408, but the ending is not the one the american cinema audience saw and sadly, this was not included on the DVD. I would have preferred that ending and since they did shoot it, it was a shame it wasn't included.
 
Another person with poor understanding of argumentation theory



to put things another way

I have a right to MY opinion about the cretinous usage of that phrase
 
Maybe I should have specified that my suggestion was for DVRAB rather than actual movies - which would be obviously unworkable.

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"Movies which end on a sour note are few and far between as they get people walking out feeling slightly betrayed that a character they just invested 80+ minutes into just died in front of their eyes. When done well though the death of a major character like a hero can give a film a lot more impact than just a typical ride off into the sunset kind of ending."

I agree with the above but just prefer to have a happy ending :)
 
Because when I watch a film I want to be told a story that comes from the maker's own vision.
If somebody chops, changes and re-edits it then it's pointless. You may as well play an interactive computer game or something.

Stories aren't supposed to be convenient. If a story has a particular ending then it's usually there for a reason. Change it and you change the context of the entire story. That's not what I think cinema is about.
You're watching somebody else's vision and imagination, not playing a computer game for easy and convenient gratification.

Sometimes bad things have to happen for the story to work, you may not like them but often they are correct and necessary. It works the other way too, a film is designed to have a more upbeat ending, because that's what story the maker wants to tell, it's their story.
If you don't like endings to films then you should write your own stories not try to change other people's work in the idea that you think that you can do better.
Try and change it and it's not the same film anymore, it's a different film. Change the ending of Gladiator or something and you can't say that you enjoyed watching Gladiator anymore, you watched some hacked up bastardised version of it and changed what it originally served to do and what effect on the viewer it was designed to elicit.

Of course there's studio interference which can be involved, but I suppose that's a whole new discussion in its own right.
 
To me films are made the way they are, they conclude as the writer/director etc has visualized. If you are watching alternative endings, then you aren't watching the proper conclusion to the story.
 
No, they're just curiosities put onto the DVD for interest.
The film itself is a complete, whole, finished piece of work.

I watched 28 Days Later, and after the credits rolled it showed the alternative ending.
Personally I think it was a bad idea to show the additional alternative ending tacked onto the end of the film on the same showing.
Because I think you should choose your ending and stick with it.
No problem sticking that ending onto a DVD as an extra, or showing it separate from the film, but I don't think it was a good idea to show the audience the alternative viewing straight after they'd seen the final film. Because you want the audience to watch the film with its ending and leave the cinema thinking about the one ending in mind, not juggling two different endings around in their minRAB.

However, I believe that the alternative ending for 28 Days Later was at one point supposed to be the proper ending wasn't it? And the studio interfered by insisting on a more upbeat ending instead?
But even so I think that you should still stick with one ending and not have the audience leave the film with the 'What if' on their mind detracting from what they felt about the main story which was the chosen final cut. I think that the audience should be introduced to the alternative ending at a later date once the actual finalised film in it's entirety has sunk in.
 
Setting aside the fact that the film-maker has his or her own vision for the film and that the ending is part of that vision... how would this work in practice? Would you have a submenu on the DVD called "select your ending"? Would it then give you a choice of "happy ending" and "sad ending", or "hero dies" and "hero lives"?

Assuming that most viewers start watching the film without knowing the whole plot, how would you give them a choice of ending without giving too much away? It would be a major spoiler, and who wants that?
 
But now always. There have been/will be endings that the writer wrote and director filmed which are changed after getting the thumbs down from test audiences.

In First Blood (as originally shot), Rambo dies at the end (as he does at the end of the original novel). This ending was not popular with the test audiences so it was changed to the ending you see in the film where Rambo lives.

What you see on the cinema screen will not always be the vision of the writer and director.
 
but what enRAB up being released as the film is what 'it' is
'it' is one whole thing, not a selection box

you watch a film, read a book, listen to music precisely because you want to watch, read or listen to what someone else has created, as a whole
if you want to create your own, you can go & do that
 
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