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impossible because "something can't.....? ......come from nothing" when that is exactly what the Christian doctrine of EX NIHILO has always claimed about the creation of the universe?
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EXPLORING THE DETAILS:
So I don't get it (which is kind of amazing because I myself am a Bible-believing Christian.) Christians are posting here that:
1) It is impossible to have something coming from nothing.
2) Yet, the same people believe that God is omnipotent and can do anything he wishes to do.
3) So why can't God use some process (of his choice) to create something out of nothing (which theologians have long called EX NIHILO creation.)
4) And why couldn't that process which God used happen to be similar to what is popularly known as "The Big Bang Theory".......
5).......even though the Big Bang Theory itself doesn't claim that "something came from nothing" (just to be technical about it.....because BBT claims that the universe expanded from a singularity; the "big bang" explosion idea is actually a tongue-in-cheek deprecation made by an early critic of the theory and the name stuck.)
In any case, when a Christian claims that "something can't come from nothing", aren't they denying EX NIHILO creation and denying the first chapter of the Book of Genesis?
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A fellow Christian once told me that his major beef with the Big Bang Theory was mostly the fact that God isn't mentioned -- but wouldn't that mean that he would have to object to ALL SCIENCE because whether or not God was involved in a particular event and/or scientific phenomenon simply isn't within the purview of science. Would he object to the Theory of Gravity because it doesn't mention God? (And why do many Christians raise the Law of Thermodynamics in various debates if they object to laws which don't mention God?)
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EXPLORING THE DETAILS:
So I don't get it (which is kind of amazing because I myself am a Bible-believing Christian.) Christians are posting here that:
1) It is impossible to have something coming from nothing.
2) Yet, the same people believe that God is omnipotent and can do anything he wishes to do.
3) So why can't God use some process (of his choice) to create something out of nothing (which theologians have long called EX NIHILO creation.)
4) And why couldn't that process which God used happen to be similar to what is popularly known as "The Big Bang Theory".......
5).......even though the Big Bang Theory itself doesn't claim that "something came from nothing" (just to be technical about it.....because BBT claims that the universe expanded from a singularity; the "big bang" explosion idea is actually a tongue-in-cheek deprecation made by an early critic of the theory and the name stuck.)
In any case, when a Christian claims that "something can't come from nothing", aren't they denying EX NIHILO creation and denying the first chapter of the Book of Genesis?
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A fellow Christian once told me that his major beef with the Big Bang Theory was mostly the fact that God isn't mentioned -- but wouldn't that mean that he would have to object to ALL SCIENCE because whether or not God was involved in a particular event and/or scientific phenomenon simply isn't within the purview of science. Would he object to the Theory of Gravity because it doesn't mention God? (And why do many Christians raise the Law of Thermodynamics in various debates if they object to laws which don't mention God?)