Why do anti-Israel people come here to whine like beaten dogs?

Outtaluck

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I've just taken a glance at the questions and just wondering?

It's not as if any of the pro-Israelis are mucking up the Egypt or Lebanon pages. And you know that if there was more than one Jewish country, that's what Arabs/anti-Israelis would do (even if it had to do with one Jewish country, they would attack all of them by association).

I mean clearly this is a site for travel and info, have you no life?




Or are you guys just playing the usual Arab game of putting the blame on someone else to draw attention away from yourselves?

-Making notes of Israel's human rights records when the Arab countries have some of the most appalling ones in the world?

-Whining about Israel killing Arabs for 60 years, while Arabs continue to kill Arabs as they have done for the past 1,300 years.

-Criticizing Israel's achievements, even though the Arab countries have not offered the world anything decent, positive, or new since the sack of Baghdad by the Mongols in 1258.
I am seeing the usual Arab games here...try to bring in irrelevant facts, repetition, etc.

You guys will never learn.
Claymore Thomas, I strongly urge you to get an education.
 
I am most certainly not "anti-israel"... but looking at your question and the way you approach the situation, I can see why some would be "anti-israel". I do understand that there is a lot of hatred and prejudice in the world...but try to be more diplomatic and educational in your approach in these matters.

"Why do anti-Israel people come here to whine like beaten dogs?" is not the way to go :-) This is acting no better than the people who are anti-israel. We need to educate and enlighten in order to rid prejudice views. Extremists thinking only makes the situation worse. Calling people "beaten dogs" is one way of doing things....
 
First, Roostermanforever-guess you love giving Israel "FORGIVEN LOANS" of 5-6 billion a year US tax dollars to kill Palestinians and steal their land. The Arabs pay their loans back with INTEREST.

Jeish leaders-your TRUTHFUL thoughts about arabs/Palestinians:

Every major War with the Arabs, has been initiated by Israel, INcluding its creation in 1948, by killing Arabs and stealing their land. Israel left Lebanon 3/4 in ruble, killing thousands, for A FEW hundred terrorists.

Let's see now-your premises is because Israel stole Arab Palestine land and killed its owners to create Israel in 1948 and continue to do so today with the goal of annexing the West Bank and Gaza strips, the Palestinians should recognize Israel. First ask yourself, whom is invading/occupyin/stealing land/killing the land owners. It is none other than-YOU GUESSED IT-Israel.Yes, the Hamas has it in their charter to blow Israel off the map, but it is ISRAEL whom ACTUALLY is removing the Palestinians off the map.Israel what is your road map to peace, it does NOT include Palestinians:

The King David Massacre
The Massacre at Baldat al-Shaikh
YEHIDA MASSACRE
KHISAS MASSACRE
QAZAZA MASSACRE
The Semiramis Hotel Massacre
The Massacre at Dair Yasin
NASER AL-DIN MASSACRE
THE TANTURA MASSACRE
BEIT DARAS MASSACRE
THE DAHMASH MOSQUE MASSACRE
DAWAYMA MASSACRE
HOULA MASSACRE
SHARAFAT MASSACRE
Salha Massacre
The Massacre at Qibya
KAFR QASEM MASSACRE
Khan Yunis Massacre
The Massacre in Gaza City
AL-SAMMOU' MASSACRE
Aitharoun Massacre
Kawnin Massacre
Hanin Massacre
Bint Jbeil Massacre
Abbasieh Massacre
Adloun Massacre
Saida Massacre
Fakhani Massacre
Beirut Massacre Sabra And Shatila Massacre
Jibsheet Massacre
Sohmor Massacre
Seer Al Garbiah
Maaraka Massacres
Zrariah Massacre
Homeen Al-Tahta Massacre
Jibaa Massacre
Yohmor Massacre
Tiri massacre
Al-Naher Al-Bared Massacre
Ain Al-Hillwee Massacre
OYON QARA MASSACRE
Siddiqine Massacre
AL-AQSA MOSQUE MASSACRE
THE IBRAHIMI MOSQUE MASSACRE
THE JABALIA MASSACRE
Aramta Massacre
ERETZ CHECKPOINT MASSACRE
Deir Al-Zahrani Massacre
Nabatiyeh (school bus) Massacre
Mnsuriah Massacre
The Sohmor Second Massacre
Nabatyaih Massacre
Qana Massacre
Trqumia Massacre
Janta Massacre
24 Of June 1999 Massacres
Western Bekaa villages Massacre
Gaza "Cast lead operation" Massacre

Jewish leaders, YOUR TRUTHFULL thought on this matter-take the floor:

1. "There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies Â*not just in ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but actually belong to a different galaxy." Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001

2. "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed against the boulders and walls." " Israeli Prime Minister (at the time) in a speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

3. "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." Raphael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces, New York Times, 14 April 1983.

4. "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June 1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff, which was born and developed after the war." Israeli General Matityahu Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.

5. David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.

6. Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : "We must do everything to insure they ( the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the young will forget."

7. "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.

8. "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001, to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio. (Certainly the FBI's cover-up of the Israeli spy ring/phone tap scandal suggests that Mr. Sharon may not have been joking.

9. "We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces - Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.

10. "We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.

11. "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port Said, Alexandria and Sinai." David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New York 1978.

12. "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum"

13. "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.

14. "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

15. Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.

16. "There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over those of a tenant. tend to support the latter view and have an additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state which will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15 percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940 [and] it is entered in my diary." Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5.

17. "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours... Everything we don't grab will go to them." Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

18. "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands." Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.

19. "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl, founder of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of Palestine, Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.
 
Israeli's are the worst!!! people in Palestine ARE beaten like dogs. i know so many people that died and so many people that suffered from the Israeli's. i don't even count them(Israeli's) humans. they are monsters that are greedy, selfish, and killers. In December the Israeli's killed more than 1000 people including children. tell me, where do Arabs kill Arabs? in Palestine? will the Israeli's did that tricking them behind their back trying to make them kill each other. i bet you, you barely even know whats really going on either. the American and Jewish media don't really tell you whats going on. watch al-jazeera. then you will see the truth and whats really going on. don't act like you know everything cause you don't even know whats going on!!
 
this guy is funny,
he couldn't hit the floor if he fell on it.

anti israel, you mean pro palestinian,
why say pro israel instead of anti palestinian then?

anyway chubby since am not arab or anti israel all your flawed points,
don't seem to apply to me,
so am gonna carry on making fun of people, savvy,

i got the feeling you would lose a debate with a doorknob,
 
this guy is funny,
he couldn't hit the floor if he fell on it.

anti israel, you mean pro palestinian,
why say pro israel instead of anti palestinian then?

anyway chubby since am not arab or anti israel all your flawed points,
don't seem to apply to me,
so am gonna carry on making fun of people, savvy,

i got the feeling you would lose a debate with a doorknob,
 
OH - GOOD - GOOD POINT !!!!

ive often wondered how it is that so many have the cheek to blame us israelis and jews for being the instigators of violance and agression when its not us that are going round posting racist rants about arabs on the egypt , levanon etc pages...

can you imagine if we did though ?? apart from the mass deletion and suspension of accounts of jewish users, this place would become choka block full of anti semitic abuse in seconds.. .with little chance of THOSE questions being deleted !!!

Its the same old storey... us jews are supposed to lie down quietly and take it while the world hates on and abuses us ... and the SECOND we stand up for ourselves ???

well then we instantly become vile murdering evil nazi zionist israeli satan jews or whatever !!

and yes - some people really do have nothing better to do than to spend day in and day out hating on others...

i personally try to feel sorry for them... cant be much of a life -hating a people with so much energy can it ?
 
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