Why are kids so fucking MEAN?!!!

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ihaveabandinlaw

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My younger cousin has some problems and his mother tried to shield him from school, buses, private schools, everthing so nobody could ever make fun of him. So he was/is homeschooled. He's not the brightest kid and he literally has no social skills.

There is defenatly a difference between protecting your child and babying your child. Sometimes you have to stand back and let them deal with their problems and others you really have to take into your own hands.

I would be pissed as hell if the bus driver wasn't doing everything possible to keep the students on his bus orderly. It's dangerous enough with the idiots driving let alone a bunch of little fuckers causing trouble.

I'm already pissed off and my daughter hasn't started school. I heard from somewhere all students in my city have to take the bus because too many people use other people's addresses. I haven't verified that - but there is no way in hell that's going to happen. :) Good thing I have 3 1/2 years til that happens.
 
All the kids on my bus smoke weed and yell at absolutely nothing. sometimes i want to kill them. but since in a sophomore the freshmen leave me alone so i just sit in the mid section of the bus and thats that. its all the people who smoke weed that cause problems, without them it would be a happy good old bus ride.
 
That's so fucking weird because the only calm people on the bus I used to ride(I drive now:D ) were me and my friends and we were the weed heads.
 
When I was in grade school I had the same problems including not being able to draw a triangle, with the therapy I managed to grow out of it, maybe your son has the condition worse than I did (sometimes I do lapse back into the speech impediment.)

Anyway when I was on the bus my pops told me to either sit next to the bus driver so he could here what the people were saying to me or to sit near my older sibling, either one worked well I also found that sitting near older girls worked because they seemed to make others people just leave me alone.
 
Thanks everyone for your input. I just want to say that if I really needed him to ride the bus things would be different, but I don't. In fact the only reason he is riding the bus is for the social benefits of it and getting to know the kids in the neighborhood. Well, it now seems pointless as he does know the kids here (it's not they who are picking on him) and obviously being bullied because he is different is not my idea of positive social skills.

Apparently this has been a much more severe problem than I thought as his teacher called me today after reading the note that I would be picking him up from now on. He has become exceedingly agressive over the past few weeks and his drawings have all been depicting him being stabbed, shot, or burning in a circle of fire. (These are his words because his drawings are really only scribble because of his poor motor skills). He also told the teacher's aides that he wanted to kill himself. Keep in mind he's only 6 fucking years old! We think he's been really targeted by these kids now. He says they really do bother him.

Also, I'm taking him off because honestly, with him being the "baby" on the bus, he has time to mature and grow up a bit before he really needs this sort of social environment anyway. It was a trial thing and now no longer needed. I don't want to make a stink where the kids will be "dealt" with because they have only been little snot-nosed kids. They weren't doing much more than many people do as kids and they will probably outgrow this type of bullshit. Some day, they could end up being my son's best friends, providing I don't "snitch" on them and turn them (and everyone else they blab to) against my son making him out to be a crybaby and snitch. He really isn't, it was a fluke he even told me as he's been dealing with this for a few months now, without saying a word...

Funny_One, I don't think you read all of my description about his possible autism. It's not like his disadvantages were only his age or size. These are things much more severe and that kind of interaction when he is struggling already in school to merely keep up with his class and keeping out of "special ed" classes is completely damaging and in no way character building. I know what you're getting at in a different scenario and kid, you're probably right, but not here. If you disagree, I'd recommend you try this theory out with your own kids.
 
Its a superiority thing. Someone might have their own defaults, but pick on someone else to get it away from them. Its to make sure they never become the target. Why do you think there are bullies? So they don't get made fun of. It all has to do with the social order - and if you can point out someones flaws like a champ; you're gonna be on top.

I feel bad for your son Honey, no one deserves to be made a scape-goat of the developing children - If I were you I'd talk to your son and some how make a way for him to understand that kids that make fun of him really feel bad about themselves, and to make someone look worse makes them look better in the eyes of their peers. He might have a long road for him, but if I were you I'd try to get him involved with a sport or hobby that is popular around your area. I'd really try to motivate him to do well in school if he were unable to do so, or do really well in a particular area that helps him feel comofortable with people around him and vise versa.

EDIT: TEACHERS JUST WAITED UNTIL TODAY TO TELL YOU YOUR SON HAS BEEN SAYING THOSE THINGS ABOUT HIMSELF???!?!?!?

I'd tell them straight up; and I'd be an uber bitch, but I'd tell them that you need to know how your son is feeling away from you at school. If they don't obligate themselves to inform you on communication between your son's teacher and your son there could be severe Problems that you could help fix out of school.

just my opionon on that Honey.
 
I agree, Chad. I said so to his teacher - save the uber bitch part. In general his teacher is REALLY great with him and has been extremely supportive of him and his efforts. She hasn't wanted to push him off on special ed or jump to labels. She wants to keep him in her class because she sees his improvements and the benefit of his being around the other "normal" children and agrees taking him out of that environment would do much more damage than good. So, as bad as that is, I am not going to burn that bridge of communication I have with her.

As far as the other kids. I found out it is mostly one child on his bus, one that was actually on his t-ball team last year. I don't get it either, but we both think he doesn't recognize him as (I'm not kidding about this) he only saw him in his ballcap and kids look completely different when that hat comes off, especially from the perspective of a 6 year-old. I know that the other boy lives with his grandparents and they have custody so I'm going to assume something happened to his parents that is probably the reason the little boy acts the way he does and wants my son to stay away. He gets mad because my son tries to sit with him when there are no other seats. He doesn't want anyone to sit with him actually but my son is the last one on that's not a middle school kid who doesn't want to sit with a 6 year-old anyway. My son has been standing in the aisle quite a bit because of this too (which I just found out tonight). FYI, according to the state guidelines the bus is allowed to have no more than 20% of the total occupancy of the bus standing... I've had my rounds with the transportation department about this already.

Anyway, I'm not interested in my son riding the bus anyway and I'm tired of fighting pointless battle after battle with the transportation department (they know me well) for other peoples' kids anymore. It seemed I was one of about two parents who ever called or complained.... The world disgusts me.
 
If he does have Aspergers (High Functioning Autism), he's in for a world of shit when he gets a little older. Take it from me.

Just hope he has it very mild like I did...if the kid has always been able to hold a conversation, and understand at least half of society, chances are he can recover like me and some of my friends have.
 
He can hold a conversation... if you keep making him listen, unless it's about something he is interested in of course, which is broadening. I'm not too concerned really. If you didn't know his "diagnosis" you'd think he was just a bit odd and awkward. I think he'll outgrow much of it.

By the way, you're not saying Aspergers and Highly functioning autistic is the same thing are you? It's really not, although there are a few professionals who call it that, but they're two different things really.
 
This is a hard subject for me to talk about. I knew a kid in junior high (we'll call him Greg), and his autism didn't start developing until then. I remember one of the first instances it became apparent was during a basketball game. I was running down the court full blast heading for the hoop. As I began to go up for the lay up, he just kind of stopped in his tracks like he was lost. I flew right into his backside and we both went tumbling down. I naturally was pissed that my shot got blown (12 year olds do that), and when we both got back up I started yelling at him like "Man, 'Greg' what the hell is your problem?". And he was just staring off to his left with dull cows eyes like he wasn't listening. So, laid in with a shot to his gut and he dropped like a ton of bricks.

He wasn't that physically fit in the first place, and with him being so unprepared for the shot I ruptured his spleen. It wasn't until a couple weeks and numerous tests later that we found out that he was developing autism. I haven't been the same about violence IRL since. I think that, that moment has a big affect on how I've come to work with the developmentally disabled over the last few years. I've learned that autism is one of the most hard to distinguish in a realm of disabilities. I hope that none of those kids ever try and use him as a punching bag, and if they ever do... send me in to deal with them, lol.

I feel for your son Honey, I really do. I know there hasn't been any definite cure for autism yet, but I hope there will be someday. It's just too much of a misunderstood ailment in todays society.
 
If he had high functioning autism, I doubt he could hold a conversation at all, or would truly suck at it. He'd be smart as hell but wouldn't have jack shit for social skills.

Autistic = retarded. High functioning = Intelligent, no social skills. Aspergers = crippled social skills.

Yeah, I'm just going to wait for "O_O Plox" to reply and claim you can't overcome Aspergers, even though myself and four of my friends have.
 
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