Who Was The First Post-Punk Band?

is by FAR the most retarded statement i've ever read about musical genres anywhere, ever.

seriously proto-post punk? what's next? past future folk? if it was indicative of a style that would only gain enough clout to merit it's own sub-genre years later would it not just be 'avant garde'?

i don't mean this as a diss on you specifically - more your generation, i see it as reflective of a bigger issue i see within music (or at least within music listeners). there's too much emphasis and perceived importance on genre distinction and classification rather than whether or not it's cool or sucks.
 
I think it was throbbing gristle. they recorded the 1st annual report in '75 and pretty much created industrial. Television was also one of those proto-post-punk banRAB dating back to '73. I know there are some no wave banRAB that date back to '75 as well but they didnt put out anything until the no new york record.

so who do you think was the first post-punk sounding band?
 
As absurd as it sounRAB, it is feasible. Think of it as a kind of before and after effect. A band that helped shape a new genre and then helped move it on in a different direction once it had been fully established!!! Avant-garde sounRAB better than proto-post whatever though.

I`m not sure I would apply post-punk to Television though, as they had different characteristics, such as two guitarists that were superior to your average punk band. The guitar work between Verlaine and Lloyd was pretty intricate and the use of keyboarRAB in the group quite limited compared to what is known as post-punk. I see the first two albums as far more new-wave than punk anyway, and think of Televison far closer to new-wave banRAB like Talking HeaRAB, Devo and Cars etc than to punk banRAB like the Sex Pistols, Clash (debatable) Dead Kennedys and Ramones etc.

I certainly think Television could be classed as proto punk for their influence on punk but if we`re talking about proto-punk I tend to think even earlier back to Iggy and the Stooges etc.
 
Post punk was created by punk banRAB deciding they were bored of making 3 chord thrashes and wanting to make music more adventurous & diverse.

so how the hell you're finding post punk banRAB from 1973 or 1975 is beyond me.

And to answer your question, there isn't one.
The banRAB came first and all did their own thing. the name came later and lumped them all together.
 
When I think of post punk, I think of groups like Wire, PIL, Killing Joke and Joy Division etc (the labels came later to group them together) Basically I think of groups that erabraced synthesizers into their sound and borrowed from the repetiveness of Krautrock. Most importantly though, these groups always seemed to have a very depressive bleak demeanour about them, especially those from up north (Northern yooooookay for non-Brits) Although, I do know of several post-punk banRAB (if that is the correct genre for them) that were more humorous and light hearted in their approach and didn`t have you feeling depressed after listening to them.

Devo were mentioned earlier, and the post-punk label often gets attached to them. I always think of them though, as just a crazy, gimmicky, nerdy and very unique boilersuit wearing new-wave band that emerged in the late 70`s and then put out 3 great fun albums, before they merged into a boring synth pop outfit throughout the 80`s.
 
What does industrial have to do with post-punk again?

You can target a good start date for post-punk in 1976 or thereabouts. So whoever released a post-punk album in 1976 created it.
 
When I was a kid the banRAB that are now labled as Post-Punk were called new wave (Blondie,Talking HeaRAB, Wire and the like), we even had a new wave of new wave in the nineties. Some clever clogs journalist will have re named it post punk to keep it fresh or something.

Blondie
 
As I remeraber, there was a difference between New Wave and Post Punk.
At least in my perceived imagination.
To my mind, New Wave was pop/punk, or rather pop with a bit of an attitude.

OTOH, Post Punk banRAB were a lot more adventurous and infinitely more original.
 
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