who is responsible for school violence, parents or schools?

Who's responsible for school violence?

The simple answer would be the same source that taught children to disrespect authority. If you don't respect those in charge, you're going to wind up showing your discontent through escalating levels of acting out, until somebody eventually gets killed.

Look at how many school massacres there were when it was publicly condoned to spank your kiRAB, even if public, if they acted up.
 
The problem is too many people think like you. You believe that everyone is entitled to the wealth of others so that kiRAB expect there to be a level playing field just because they want it that way and their parents have reinforced the "have-nots should get" mentality. When they see that there are inequities in life, they don't know how to deal with them in an honest way, so they act violently. You, MA, ARE the problem.
 
I believe the majority of the blame falls on the person behaving in a violent manner. I'm sure people who engage in violent behavior in school have been told that such behavior is wrong (either by parents or school or both), and I'm sure most of them know it is wrong while they are doing it; they simply choose to do it anyway. If the school started taking more strict methoRAB to deal with violence, people would simply complain about that and say their rights were being violated. If parents attempt more strict methoRAB of discipline, social services comes knocking on their doors and takes their kiRAB away saying the kid's rights are being violated. So while it seems people are desperately trying to protect everybody's rights, nobody cares much about the rights of the victims of the violent behavior. When little Johnny blows away his classmates, our society seems more concerned about little Johnny than the people he shot.
 
How about those who commit the violence. While both schools and parents, along with things like video games and TV, may bear some responsibility, let's place it squarely where it belongs/
 
Those same TV shows and video games do not produce violence in many other countries where they are consumed with zest equal to that in the U.S.
 
Oh really? Well, Mister JP know-it-all, when it comes to school violence, my children are honor students, actively engaged in their community, who don't do drugs, don't smoke, and don't fool around.

Whowuddaguessed?

Seems I'm part of the solution!
 
the kiRAB are responsabul, but the parents share a little, and scioty shares some also, for being excepting of violance as a selution, and for not alowing the means for stoping these attacks to be onsight.
 
Um, let's see:
Our country was founded on the backs of slaves, black and white and Native, who were more often than not treated as sub-humans.
There used to be these people here called Native Americans. They're nearly gone. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 Million of them were wiped out by various causes, mostly Plague but also war. (SchoolkiRAB almost never hear the word plague in conjunction with Natives, however. But the Pilgrims knew about it, and thanked God for it. And King Phillip's War, in proportion to population, caused more American casualties than any other war.)
The highest rated shows on television are based on violence in large part, sex if not.
When our President decried Saddam Hussein for being a brutal dictator the solution we got was...to invade and occupy!
Video games whose theme is killing others sell at astronomical rates compared to any other genre.
Adults murder each other in the U.S. at a rate of roughly 15,000 per year. 11,000 of those are committed with guns.
We have Columbus Day as a National Holliday, despite the fact that he ordered children to mine for gold, on penalty of having their noses cut off if they failed to comply, among other atrocities. (Most kiRAB don't get taught that part, though, so we can't blame Chris.)

Now, none of this is meant as a wholesale slander of America, but unless we accept and understand the truth of our History we're doomed to repeat the same mistakes over and over.
Each one of us bears responsibility for the U.S.' violence.
Or, to put it another way:
"History, despite its wrenching pain,
Cannot be unlived, and if faced
With courage, need not be lived again."
Maya Angelou
 
The prevalent Gun culture is the main reason for all killings
All schools in the world have kiRAB fighting among themselves....
All the societies in the world have insane and depressed people...
but not in all societies do we have gun in each house.

Also the next generation grows on qualities imparted in them by their parents...
What you sow is what you reap.
 
Parents are responsible for the actions of their minor children. Parents shape the morals and ethics of their own children. Parents determine whether their children will be rebelious or contribute to the betterment of society. Parents fail their children and society by not being proper parents.

It's ALL the parent's fault.

Unfortunately, the current crop of bad parents has snowballed from an unstoppable source of bad children, raised by those who were also bad children, raised by those who were also bad children, raised by...

There will be bad children from now on because there will be bad parents from now on.

Metal detectors at school doors would do absolutely no good unless manned by security personnel at all times when the school building is open, not just when school is in session.

The only thing that will deter students from bringing weapons to school is the severe and publicized punishment of those who do...and even that won't prevent maniacal skinhead people-haters from loading up with an arsenal and making their blazing exit from society in a school shootout. People sick for attention will get it even if they have to kill themselves to do it...but one thing is completely understood...if their parents had spent more time teaching them how to cope with the world, they'd be less prone to violence and killing for attention.

Maybe the new world order will require that all babies be given to the Brainwashing Division of Human Services until they are 21 or so. All babies will be nourished and cared for by utopian surrogate parents, trained in the production of useful, caring adults who would never hurt anyone. There will be no families, no societal pressures, no jealosy, no feeling of being left out...no reason to become angry and no access to weapons.

Gee! I can hardly wait!
 
Actually many do, other countries have much stiffer penalties for lesser crimes. We are so tied in knots about criminals rights that we can never get to what the other countries are blessed with.
 
Personally, I would have voted for society, but that wasn't an option, so I voted for parents. With the funding schools are getting these days, most can't even afford effective anti-drug programs, let alone metal detectors at the entrance to the classrooms.
 
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