Who gets paid more American voice actors or Japanese Voice actors?

What evidence is there of that?




I brought the fact the union dubs get paid more for the purpose of comparing voice acting pay levels between the two counties, that's not pushing, that's stating a fact for the purposes of analysis.

Again show me one time I said union dubs produce better quality dubs then non union, because I never said that, per say. I merely said you make more moeny with one then the other and that I prefer to make more money then less. Personally though if were a VA would much rather do pre-lay then any dubbing at all.

So please stop derailing my topic with this, its not what I'm discussing.



You aren't proving anything, unless you show me much these Japanese companies pay compared to the American companies mentioned, you aren't providing real evidence.
 
I believe the voice actors who get paid the most (worldwide wise) are the celebrities they use for theatrical animated films for companies like Disney/Pixar and Dreamworks. Of course, those celebrities already have a lot of money to begin with and they get paid more for just having their name attached to the film. Well, there is the exception from when Disney fooled Robin Williams into getting paid the industry standard for voicing the Genie in Aladdin by saying "Well you would be doing it for your kiRAB. Wouldn't they be thrilled their dad is in an animated Disney movie? etc." That is one of the reasons Robin Williams was so angry with Disney for a while. Besides that, I'd say the cast of The Simpsons is pretty up there, as far as getting paid the most.
 
While the website that listed them no longer exists, having read real actual nurabers on how and what seiyu get paid, I can tell you you're dead wrong. Seiyu get paid according to their seniority, and only the most seasoned veterans can match Western union pre-lay actors in pay per episode. Complete newbies get less than the average dub actor.

Also, they don't get additional payments whenever their work is aired on TV, and the Japanese "post recording" method they use for both dubbing and original material is more time consuming than pre-lay and ADR, so the latter actors will generally be able to do more shows per day, especially if they're recorded one at a time and need only go through their own dialog.
 
Well whether one thinks someone like Tara strong is better or worse then any given non voice actor who dubs anime is a matter of opinion of course, I was merely commenting on the amount of money she makes overall.

Well here's the thing, in an interview Bob Bergen mentioned that it was unfair how little anime dub actors make in regarRAB pre-lay actors, because their job is twice as hard as doing pre-lay work, but companies who make American cartoons have way more money then dubbing companies and some cartoon producers don't like the way anime dubs sound so they don't hire anime dub VAs for that reason alone. Again that's not fair, but it is the reality we live in.

This probably why Steve Blum stopped doing non union work and seems to focus more western cartoons then anime nowadays. If you aren't "hooked up" its harder to make voice acting your career.



Interesting, do you know which Japanese voice actors have top seniority?
 
Not sure how official is this website.. but it saiRAB that the Japanese VA don't get paid too much...

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/01/09/starving-seiyuu-poor-as-church-mice-80-work-part-time/

And I found an interview with a US Voice actor which explains some of the Salary scales:

http://articles.latimes.com/2001/dec/18/entertainment/et-gold18?pg=2
 
A matter of union? I'm not sure what you mean. And btw I wasn't really commenting on what you said other than to refer to her making a good living. She's a good actor, but so are many others who aren't as lucky as she is.

Yeah, the people who have a lot of money often hire the most visible people they can find within arm's reach. They're not going to do much else. Prejudice against anime dubs doesn't help much either.
 
At those who claim that J-VA's get paid more than A-VA's, can I get a link to where you got the rates? Just check them out, I'm actually pretty curious about this.
 
Just because they they are popular doesn't mean they make a ton of money though, I doubt they make Hollywood level wages and I haven't seen any evidence that they make more money then a pre-lay American voice actor.
 
Being popular DOES tend to lead to making more money though...
Who makes the most money amongst actors/signers/athletes/artists/writers and so forth? The one's that become popular... popularity means that you will attract more of an audience and thus earn your employers more money... as such you are considered more valuable and thus paid more. I mean can you name anyone in a media related profession, that is popular, and DOES NOT make more money than their peers?

I haven't seen actual figures but i do think there is enough to suggest they get paid more.

I mean, unlike VA's in america, being a good VA can get you celebrity status... and when you are talking about celebrity's your talking about people that companies will hire just for their star appeal, and as such are willing to pay more for them (in america this would be consider an exception to the rule, but in japan it IS the rule)... Some VA's will even get the chance to move on to getting careers in singing, while still maintaining their jobs as VA's... When it comes down to it, being popular practically DOES mean they make more money


Do they make as much as hollywood actors? maybe not, but that's beside the point... hollywood actors make so much money that it would be easy to fall between them and american voice actors; thus "paid more than American VA's, but paid less then hollywood actors"... It's like what i said about the simpsons; you can't look at them when talking about the "average" amercian VA because they are paid much more than what an average american VA is paid (exceptions from the rule)... you could only point at the simpsons if they were representative of the average... What i'm saying is that i would not find it hard to believe if the simpson VA salary was typical amongst VA's in japan, thanks in part to their ability to become popular amongst the public
 
Except voice actors are far more replacable then any of those people, for example the FMA series has new voice cast, if the first voice actors were that popular why were they replaced.

Plus the article Power Zord posted says that 80% of voice actors in Japan need take a second job, do you have an article to counter that article?

I haven't seen actual figures but i do think there is enough to suggest they get paid more.



Not in this case though, because I have seen no evidence that they make more money, that's what I'm looking for. Appearing on a talk show now and again doesn't mean they make big bucks. Besides are all the voice actors in Japan that popular? I doubt it.

Its assumption to assume because the Japanese VAs are more popular, that they make more money, its not a fact.



What Japanese VA makes 400 000 dollars an episode? I have never heard anything like that. I doubt that is typical any where, excpet amongst the Simpson cast.
 
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