Which would you rather have?Manliness or intelligence?

[Para Boxer X]

Which of the two would you rather have?

Iam using the cliched definition of intelligence as in being a super genius who could memorize stuff instantly and quickly learn the most complex stuff such as College level stuff such as Advanced Physics in a short amount of time.

When I use manliness, I don't mean the macho kind of manliness.Iam refering manliness as a person being mature and having ideal qualities men should have such as diligence, discipline, and guts in danger.Basically manliness as in ideal traits in society.

Of the two, I think manliness is WAY MORE IMPORTANT in life.Intelligence is absolutely useless without having integrity and masculine virtues.Intelligence can only get so far but once obstacles get in the way, intelligence will fail you.Having the traits of manliness gives you the necessary willpower and discipline needed to get through life.

Its such a shame modern society values intelligence over manliness(what happened to society's value of brave hardworking hard men with integrity?).
@ Derail-I'll clarify-when I meant intelligence I mean the stereotype genius who could memorize everything quickly and can already carry out complex things such as Calculus with top performance in the first few tries of learning.

Other words, Iam talking about the stereotype of student who gets straight As so easily while putting almost no effort.
@Melissza-Thats not what I meant by manliness.By manliness, I meant the ideal masculine virtues.Think how the ideal soldier should be-Brave, Loyal, Disciplined, Diligence, full of integrity.Thats what I meant by manliness.

 

[Skedaddle]

And who says that you can't be manly and intelligent at the same time? Don't group this kind of stuff together. People are a mix.

 

[Skedaddle]

And who says that you can't be manly and intelligent at the same time? Don't group this kind of stuff together. People are a mix.

 

[Norse]

I, and in no capacity am I being a smug, conceited prick, would like to thing I fit the bill for a manly man. But intelligence in a man is actually a required trait of masculinity. Intelligence is required to have some semblance of bravery, strength, and imagination. Daring is a masculine trait, thus, a man would need to be intelligent. Integrity, as I learned, is entirely subjective, though. The insipid "straight-A student" would not be necessarily intelligent. Ability to quickly acquire and retain intelligence does not necessarily define one's intelligence. Look at the Rain Man. He can barely tie his f*cking shoes. Okay. I'm really feeling like a chauvinist now.

 

[Geek Power XD]

I'd rather be manly and I already am.

 

[Ubgb]

Forgive me for saying this, but your description of manliness appears to be virtues that you assign exclusively to men. Integrity, discipline, diligence, loyalty, bravery, etc. are not exclusively manly virtues, so I don't think the term "manliness" is appropriate. I say this as a man. Perhaps that's not what you meant by the term.

What would be a more appropriate description of manliness? I originally thought: Qualities that are found exclusively to men. But I don't think there really are any. There are qualities that are more common to men, and qualities that are more common to women, which would perhaps make these categories meaningful.

The person in my life who exhibits these virtues you speak of the most is my oldest sister. She's also quite intelligent.

I don't think I could choose between intelligence and other virtues. I would want them all.

I think there is a virtue that leads to all of them, and that is wisdom. If you are wise all of these other virtues will be desirable. If you are a fool, they won't. They won't because you will believe that you already possess them when it is obvious that you don't. Wisdom comes with the humility to realize and acknowledge when you don't. That seems to be more important than to strive in vain to possess them. And yes, there is a difference between wisdom and intelligence. I've met many people who were of low intelligence but were very wise.

 

[Derail]

You're right in that intelligence is useless with out integrity and character. That's very true. That seems to be part of the dilemma with the current White House (US) administration. But according to how you have defined both manliness and intelligence, I too would have to go with manliness - if it represents productivity, common sense, trust, helping your neighbors, and a sense of right and wrong. But I also think these traits require a degree of intelligence too. So I haven't really answered your question, have I. LOL.