Which Symbian^3 is your favorite?

If the E7 had microSD, I might have been able to consider it. As it is, I'm waiting for the N9.

Out of these choices, the N8 looks the best. Keyboard variant, where art thou?!
 
They all have 1700, so there's a slim chance T-Mobile will pick one of them up like they did the Nuron.

As long as at&t stays away I'll be happy. Nobody should have to deal with a neutered phone.
 
Another N8 for the camera. That camera is by far the single-best feature on any of the announced devices. The others are all OK, but the camera on the N8 really stands out.
 
All four phones are powered by the same ARM11 processor at 680MHz. Means the cheaper of the four will deliver the best bang of the buck ratio, while the more expensive of the four is forced to compete against 1GHz superphones. That's something to think about when you're buying them.
 
Like others have said, it'll sell fine in Nokia's core markets, but it won't bring back those who went iPhone or Android, and it certainly won't make a dent in the U.S., selling only online, unsubsidized. Even the Nexus One sold little with that strategy.

I don't think even Meego will go far here, aside from sales to Nokia enthusiasts. Aside from unlocked phones, if I were Nokia I would just cede the U.S. market, save your resources and call it a day.
 
I'd vote for the N8 but not without an sd card slot and replaceable battery. What is Nokia thinking? That's the only thing that keeping me from the iphone.
 
No it's not.

What you say might be true if all the phones were exactly the same and differentiated only by price, or if all the phones were designed to exclusively serve some common purpose (Like playing games, for example.) regardless of other embedded features, but that's not the case. The phones have feature and form factor differentiations and, as evidenced by the discussions in this forum, clearly different people value the different features and therefore different phones in different ways.

To imply that the C6-01 and N8 can be interchanged on the grounds that they use the same CPU is nonsense. To suggest that the higher priced models in the S^3 lineup compete with other product on that market exclusively in terms of processing power is more nonsense. If I want an ARM-based CPU, I can buy one for the price of a lunch and use it as a keyring. The processor is the means to an end, not an end.
 
False.

Blackberry assumed the same thing on the Torch---and got promptly canned for it. When a 1GHz CPU has become the new normal for top end smartphones, there is a certain feel and speed that goes along with it. I looked at those videos of Symbian^3 that's posted on this board. That's pretty good if you're used to using Symbian or Windows Mobile phones. Yet when I look at it, it feels comparable to an Android phone at the same clock range (many low and mid end Android phones are clocked now at 624).

It definitely isn't going to pass, or satisfy, someone whose sense of normal has been tuned to an iPhone 4, a Galaxy S or an Android phone with Snapdragon and Froyo. That's where your price range is going to hit.

And with only a 640x360 resolution, a resolution questionable for a 4" screen, you're up against phones with 800x480. And the iPhone is at what? 960x640?


Can a C6-01 and an N8 be interchanged? Yes it can. Its my direct experience that phones that lower ends S60 V5 phones like the 5320, 5530, and 5800 are directly competitive to more expensive phones like the X6, N97 and N97 Mini. They run the same software, run the same speed, their reception is no different. You may take out the wifi or the 3G, but on a good connection, there is practical no difference when you run them. Its still the same speed, the same resolution, the same amount of internal memory, and the same experience.

In fact, one of Nokia greater failures of late is the lack of sufficient differentiation between lower end and high end models.

This is in contrast to other platforms, where low end is an ARM11 processor, over 600Mhz now, with over 300Mb of RAM, with a 3.2" screen and a 320x480 resolution screen. When they go high end, its a Cortex A8 superscalar processor at a GHz, over 500mb of RAM and screens with 800x480 resolutions.

You know, a Cortex A8 chip nowadays don't cost so much. It probably adds a small premium that may be neglible over an ARM11 one. That's how even superphones can cost well under $200 to build.

12 MP camera btw, don't mean much if your sensor area is the same or smaller than an 8mp or 5mp one. The end result of having ever tinier pixels is that they are more susceptible to noise and grain than cameras with lower megapixel count. Furthermore, your image will now take up much larger memory, and yet you still have the same processor as the other phones with a lower megapixel camera.
 
The N8 has a hot-swap MicroSD card slot. Battery is a problem, but at least it's still user replaceable with tools in the long-term event that the battery stops holding charge and you need a new one. Everyone keeps saying that battery life is great so it might not be the end of the world.

If you're a road warrior who needs to change batteries on the go, it's definitely not for you. What's really crazy is that neither is the E7. Of all these devices, that's the one you'd expect to have a battery door and it doesn't. The E7 is, IMO, the biggest fail in the family. It's missing some business-critical functionality for a high-end business device.
 
@Drillbit

Having owned the 5800, x6, and n97. They are not the same, and are not interchangeable. Also I'm assuming you missed all the info on the N8's camera and that it features the biggest sensor in a cell phone camera.
 
Even worse, the E7 has the same battery as the N8, but has a larger screen and the newer screen tech.

Not sure what they were thinking there.

Also, I don't think the battery is as replaceable as on the N8. I didn't see torque screws anywhere on the body of the E7.
 
12mp. Yet Sony Ericsson had one too. Why don't you read about high megapixel density on tiny sensor areas. They are more susceptible to grainy output.

The 5800, the X6 and the N97, aside from the homescreen, all run on the same 434MHz processor, the same S60 V5, the same memory limitation, 128mb. So tell me from the software viewpoint, the performance viewpoint, how different they are, and tell me if the N97 performs any better, faster, the same app you can run on a 5230.
 
You are right, I think that will not be as easy as with the N8 without screws and the keyboard.

By the way I am a little suprised, my vote went to N8 but I thought that the E7 will win the poll.
 
you're thinking about it all wrong. yes they all use the same hardware more or less, so performance should be the same software-wise. however the features of each phone is what sets them apart. people pick up the 5800 for the music (could be for other things, but that's what it's made for), and it has the superior audio quality compared to the other two. those that want a hardware keyboard would take the n97, etc.

it's more or less like buying a car with the same engine, drivetrain etc. the only difference are the options. still the same car, but the options chosen fit people's needs/wants.

for the camera, have you been reading on it lately at all? it's been said that it has the largest sensor of any camera phone to date. that pretty much rules out that it's smaller than any 8mp sensor on the market right now.
 
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