Which Client is Most Popular?

Its unfortunate about bear share because that has really made Vinnie arrogant, and threatening other gnutella clients in how they should act, by threatening to use their software to block them out.

I would urge those who use Bearshare to stop using it, and to try out Phex or even Limewire. Phex is by far the best client I have used, I share a lot of files and with Bearshare and Limewire I would not get much in return, when I got phex I was finaly feeling like I am getting back what I put into the network, this is greatly due to their auto re-search feature, that automaticly checks to see if a file is available from another client, meaning I can leave the Phex alone to do its thing and it will work with out me. My results went from 1-2 a night to 6-7 a night. When I told my friend about it, he had recieved similar results, he was impressed by Phex.

Now Vinnie is threatening Phex, and seeing the user base BearShare has, its really sad to see that such an arrogant jerk has that kind of power.
 
Your a ****ing moron, bearshare is better then phex thats why BEARSHARE HAS MORE USERS AND PHEX IS SCREWING UP THE GNUTELLA NETWORK, Vinnie is only concerned about gnutella, so **** off leech, your probably just using *leechware* like phex because you are not sharing enough files.
 
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>The biggest error would be that the data only came from one location over the space of a few days.
So, from what I see, one IP downloaded 18.5 gigs of stuff from you. Most of the time he uses Bearshare, but he also uses LimeWire and some others.
Wait, misunderstanding. So what you're saying is that there were different IPs. But just a small half the time, it was one IP. (Who was using BearShare, no doubt.)
>What are you talking about? There was only 0.61% that were not compatible enough to be identified.
Yes, I did say that wrong. But the way you say it, you act like everything can be IDed 100% of the time, which is, needless to say, stupid.


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I collected some statistical data myself (with LimeWire, though) and I found that, especially when using an ultrapeer-enabled client, you won't get any accurate data. -

(Before Morpheus 1.8.2.0 was released) 75 % of the hosts I saw were LimeWire nodes.

I find th number of CNET/SourceForge downloads a far better indicator for the popularity of a client.

Number of Downloads per week:
Morpheus: 420,973 (52%)
LimeWire (including clones): 169,576 (21%)
BearShare: 139,744 (17%)
Xolox: 34,923 (4%)
QtraxMax: 18,788 (2%)
Gnucleus: 18,220 (2%)
SwapNut: 2,597 (0%)
Swapper: 1,597 (0%)
MyNapster: 1,549 (0%)
 
Java is gay? .... now that's the funniest thing I've ever heard ... Java's portability is what makes it so powerful ... and popular .... are you familar with C#? All it is as a language is (basically) is C, C++ and Java. Its the way Microsoft is going. Uncle Bill has learned a bit from the Mac and Linux crowd.

Hell, Mac OS X is bascially Linux anyway.
 
SwapNut is at www.swapnut.com. SwapNut now has a forum here on Gnutellaforums.com as well.

Most comments I have seen say that downloads through SwapNut have been highly successful compared to many other programs.

What percentage of traffic are you seeing coming from SwapNut now? They were the 9th most downloaded file last week on Download.com, ahead of all other Gnutella apps, including BearShare and LimeWire, the two leaders as the poll shows.
 
They are wrong because you can put out a new version every day and then everyone will download it and thus your numbers will go up even though your new version was only a small bug fix.
So this would be a good indication of programmers that suck and have to keep releasing new versions all the time.
There are other ways to increase the download numbers if you are keeping score to try to "win" the downloads contest.
 
Yes, I gave you the portability part, but in being so portable, JAVA programs lose alot of functionality. They're much slower than they would be if they were written in C, or even VB, first of all... Nothing OS specific can really be written into the programs, which brings up alot of compatibility issues... The interfaces are usually pretty crappy... Oh, and the worst thing of all, I can't use my dam scrolly mouse . I could go on.
I know you don't really think Java is a superior language, do you? Portability, yes. You can run a Java program on just about anything, but useability is where it is really lacking.

Oh, and I don't really see how C# has anything at all to do with Java. They may have pulled a few ideas from Java, but it's a totally different language, and doesn't suffer from the same shortcomings Java does. However, it's definately lacking on the portability side of things. (I think) C# programs only run on Windows, correct?

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/techinfo/articles/upgrade/Csharpintro.asp
 
Ok lets see here 50+45+25+65+70=210 hum... interesting.
Isn't this supposed to add up 100% not 210%?
Am I missing something?
 
I just thought about something else, this only gives you a percentage of users that download, this information does not include people who share. This could very well effect the numbers, partly because BearShare is by far the most advertised (I heard it mentioned on TechTV a number of times along side Napster and other users, sites like zeropaid put that as one of their favorites despite the user ratings), this can skew things by getting most new users who dont have much to share, are out there looking for things to download. Then there are those who download a few things and share a lot and have tried diffrent ones, have less things to download (experienced guntella users). So its more likely the newbie will be accounted for more then the experienced users by tracking what people are downloading.

I think a more well rounded statistic would both include uploads and downloads... I'll give it a try (I need to free up hard drive space though ), see what the results are...
 
Sorry I didn't think that it would be that hard for you to understand.

>>The biggest error would be that the data only came from one location over the space of a few days.
>So, from what I see, one IP downloaded 18.5 gigs of stuff from you. Most of the time he uses Bearshare, but he also uses LimeWire and some others.
Wait, misunderstanding. So what you're saying is that there were different IPs. But just a small half the time, it was one IP. (Who was using BearShare, no doubt.)

1. You have got it backwards the "one location" is me the one uploader, not one downloader.
2. The "data" is not the "18.5 gigs" that I uploaded, it is the data that I collected about those people that downloaded from me, i.e. what client & version they were using, what country, IP, host, time of day, etc.

>>What are you talking about? There was only 0.61% that were not compatible enough to be identified.
>Yes, I did say that wrong. But the way you say it, you act like everything can be IDed 100% of the time, which is, needless to say, stupid.

1. Sorry, next time I won't abbreviate. "Other" in my list means: Other clients unable to identify.
 
Currently the poll says this...

BearShare 23.08%
LimeWire 30.77%
Gnucleus 23.08%
MyNapster 0%
Gnotella 7.69%
Phex 15.38%

This is out of a measly 13 votes... in real world experience from running my own gnutella client (I run phex)... out of 101 unique IP address clients that connect to download from me...

BearShare 42 (41.6%)
LimeWire 40 (39.6%)
Gnotella 15 (14.9%)
Gnucleus 3 (3%)
Phex 1 (1%)

Of course these are people downloading from me, and are partly skewed by the files I provide.
 
How would you get data about what client people that are sharing are using? Or what client experienced people are using? Also I don't think that those two group are necessarily the same people.

The only way I know of to do this would be tracking who you personaly download from. Sorry but tracking who you download from is what Kirby thought that I was doing, and Kirby was right it is meaningless data.

I was not trying to track who is sharing, I was just looking at the number of people using each client in comparison to one another, i.e. the popularity of each client. And for this purpose my data is more accurate and larger then any I have even seen before. Mainly because I have only seen personal opitions or data from about 100 unique IP addesses or less.

You are right LimeWire used to be the popular one, but now BearShare is so older users most likely sharing more or going to be using LimeWire more, and the new users are going to be using BeaShare more. But since I am not trying to find old vs. new user or sharing vs. freeloading these don't matter. I am only looking at popular vs. not so popular with the users on the network today.

If you want try to tack something else please do, but this thread was started to track client popularity on the network, and the voting poll was for people to vote for their personal favorite client mainly so they could disagree with the client popularity data if they wanted to.

If you want to do something like sharing vs. freeloading I am sure that lots of people would be interested in it.
 
SwapNut seems to actually *BE* LimeWire - my guess is they just bought rights to use LW's code. As such I don't see how it could be very much better.

In fact, one thing I really don't like is it asks for your name and email the first time you run it! No privacy policy to speak of either - so beware!
 
Both do look amazingly alike. Swapnut however connects you to Swapnut users where the other programs connect you to all gnutella applications. Since Swapnut forces its users to share files, I think that is where the previous post about being able to download better comes in. That and the fact that it acts like Kazaa by shrinking to the system tray instead of closing all the way down, keeping peoples PC's connected to the network so others can download more. My 2 cents. You can't turn off uploads either, so your shared folder files are shared whether you want to or not.
 
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