The Lost Dutchman
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HAARP literally causes earthquakes and weather changes...why doesn't anybody ever mention this besides the history channel?
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When talking about climate change, how come nobody talks about HAARP?
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The military says the HAARP system could:
give the military a tool to replace the electromagnetic pulse effect of atmospheric thermonuclear devices (still considered a viable option by the military through at least 1986).
replace the huge Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) submarine communication system operating in Michigan and Wisconsin with a new and more compact technology.
Be used to replace the over-the-horizon radar system that was once planned for the current location of HAARP, with a more flexible and accurate system.
provide a way to wipe out communications over an extremely large area, while keeping the military’s own communications systems working.
provide a wide area earth-penetrating tomography which, if combined with the computing abilities of EMASS and Cray computers, would make it possible to verify many parts of nuclear nonproliferation and peace agreements.
be a tool for geophysical probing to find oil, gas and mineral deposits over a large area.
be used to detect incoming low-level planes and cruise missiles, making other technologies obsolete.
The above abilities seem like a good idea to all who believe in sound national defense, and to those concerned about cost-cutting. However, the possible uses which the HAARP records do not explain, and which can only be found in Air Force, Army, Navy and other federal agency records, are alarming. Moreover, effects from the reckless use of these power levels in our natural shield – the ionosphere – could be cataclysmic according to some scientists.
give the military a tool to replace the electromagnetic pulse effect of atmospheric thermonuclear devices (still considered a viable option by the military through at least 1986).
replace the huge Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) submarine communication system operating in Michigan and Wisconsin with a new and more compact technology.
Be used to replace the over-the-horizon radar system that was once planned for the current location of HAARP, with a more flexible and accurate system.
provide a way to wipe out communications over an extremely large area, while keeping the military’s own communications systems working.
provide a wide area earth-penetrating tomography which, if combined with the computing abilities of EMASS and Cray computers, would make it possible to verify many parts of nuclear nonproliferation and peace agreements.
be a tool for geophysical probing to find oil, gas and mineral deposits over a large area.
be used to detect incoming low-level planes and cruise missiles, making other technologies obsolete.
The above abilities seem like a good idea to all who believe in sound national defense, and to those concerned about cost-cutting. However, the possible uses which the HAARP records do not explain, and which can only be found in Air Force, Army, Navy and other federal agency records, are alarming. Moreover, effects from the reckless use of these power levels in our natural shield – the ionosphere – could be cataclysmic according to some scientists.
It is an unknown. You can only speculate, which is unfortunate because anything goes with HARRP.
Could HARRP be:
Creating more water vapour in the atmosphere which is far worse a green house affect than CO2
Melting ice
ect
ect
Who knows. I would not believe that a government controlled secret facility is doing no wrong. History tells us to distrust our government and have everything out in the open.
Could HARRP be:
Creating more water vapour in the atmosphere which is far worse a green house affect than CO2
Melting ice
ect
ect
Who knows. I would not believe that a government controlled secret facility is doing no wrong. History tells us to distrust our government and have everything out in the open.
Because it is basically a non issue that neither side wants to discuss. The only real and existing problem is very real and no one seems to want it on the table for full discussion and that is the sun because no human can effect it one way or another. Yet it is the sun that provides 99% of the energy of the earth. If the suns output rises 5% we have global warming even if it takes 300 years to do it as produced the warm period we are now leaving behind. Currently the planet is cooling because the sun is down at least 10% below normal and the concern of real scientists is when will the sun come back on line and just how cold will it get. No one even claims to know the answer to either of those questions because there is currently no comprehension of why the sun shut down.
We know the sun has warm cycles which last about 13,000 years and we were in the last one for about 13,500 years which to smart people means we should be heading into an ice age right now but we do not yet have the functional science to understand why. So we have liberals running around claiming the world is burning up because an inverted equation in one of their programs. We have others that do not really realize the entire solar system has natural hot and cold cycles that we do not yet have the science to comprehend. And then there are a marginal few who comprehend the existence of the problem but do not have access to science to provide real answers yet.
Some scientific information revealing the truth about global warming, when it happened and what probably caused it. And as well how many years, centuries or millennia it might be before the world warms up again from the coming ice age.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:0Master_Past_20000yrs_temperatures_icecore_Vostok_150dpi.png
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/global_warming.html
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
http://reasonmclucus.tripod.com/CO2myth.html
http://mc-computing.com/qs/Global_Warming/Atmospheric_Analysis.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation
Where the heat came from and why it was abnormally cold previously
http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~dbunny/research/global/215.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_minimum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum
We know the sun has warm cycles which last about 13,000 years and we were in the last one for about 13,500 years which to smart people means we should be heading into an ice age right now but we do not yet have the functional science to understand why. So we have liberals running around claiming the world is burning up because an inverted equation in one of their programs. We have others that do not really realize the entire solar system has natural hot and cold cycles that we do not yet have the science to comprehend. And then there are a marginal few who comprehend the existence of the problem but do not have access to science to provide real answers yet.
Some scientific information revealing the truth about global warming, when it happened and what probably caused it. And as well how many years, centuries or millennia it might be before the world warms up again from the coming ice age.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:0Master_Past_20000yrs_temperatures_icecore_Vostok_150dpi.png
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/global_warming.html
http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
http://reasonmclucus.tripod.com/CO2myth.html
http://mc-computing.com/qs/Global_Warming/Atmospheric_Analysis.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_variation
Where the heat came from and why it was abnormally cold previously
http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~dbunny/research/global/215.pdf
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_minimum
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum