When did Stan Lee turn into a perv?

L

Lottie. x

New member
Actually, I don't think Stan is pervy but I've noticed the last few animated projects cranked out by him have been somewhat risque'. Stripperella, Mosaic and Condor all seemed to push the envelope in terms of sexual situations.

Is this a case of him having more freedom to cut loose with brand new characters or was he slipping in sexual innuendos back in his Marvel days as well?
 
Well I personally thought Stripperella was good (it's at least the best show that came out of that "Strip" block Spike TV had for as short while) but his mind seems to be heading more towards the gutter when it comes to animated projects more and more. I don't think it's just to appease to more mature auidences either: I mean the movies have shown the ability to appeal to everyone without any need to try and dip into anything "fanservicy" but not so some of the newer STan Lee series/DTVs. It reminds me of a quote from The Simpsons "I Am Furious Yellow". "And I'm starting to think his mind his no longer in mint condition". As he said it himself in the sam ep, Nuff said.
 
Striperella I can understand, but how are Mosaic and Condor any different from any other movie that features fanservice scenes?
 
I've never read actual comics, known as 'graphic Novels", but even I know enough that the long appeal, is scantily clad women and bloody violent action. TV animation has never come close to what the novels had. Way too much sensor and opinion from suits,,"Can we sell toys from that?" There has been a freedom from "Sweet and light and socially educational" lately. The stuff has always been there, just hidden from kiddies watching cartoons. Ever wonder why people who read the original comics complain about the content of the animated shows? Please.:shrug:
 
The point was to compare the current projects to past Stan Lee works (i.e. comics, Spidey & His Amazing Friends) not movies in general. I've never known him to be into fan service at least not on the level of his current stuff. Now I always got the impression that Bruce Timm liked to test the censors even back in BTAS days.
 
But the comics (Marvel, DC, Disney at least) themselves (70s-80s that is) didn't go to the trouble of inserting content for the sake of it. Yeah there was death, rape and some curse words, but not to the degree of say Friday The 13th or Nightmare On Elm Street.

Death Of Gwen Stacy for instance, while not Saturday Morning material, certainly is no Law & Order.

Now Stripperella on the other hand is about inserting adult content for the heck of it.
 
While whatching 'Who want's to be a Superhereo?' last year, he was getting on to one of the contests for being an ex-stripper (male) and for taking off his cape and I found it strange he could do it with a straight face while a picture of Stripperella hung right behind his head. He also asked if Superman would ever take his cap off while working; even though he's done it lot's of times.
 
What are you talking about? Stan Lee didn't write graphic novels for Image, or anything like that. He wrote comics for Marvel in the 1960s. COMIC CODE APPROVED comics.
Rape? There's hardly any rape in 70s and 80s comics. Well, maybe in some of the late 80s mature readers comics... but still, I don't recall Stan Lee ever writing anything with rape in it.
 
I know, but Kagetsu was talking about comics in general,

On the note of what you said, he did write that 3 issue story in Amazing Spider-Man #96-98 dealing with drugs (Which went without the approval). Though it wasn't done for the sake of going against the CCA, but for an anti-drug message and good story. It even had a good character moment for J Jonah Jameson.
 
Striperella was an aboration really of the "shock" shows that started with The Simpsons, South Park then progressed to other shows that tried to be "edgy" without having any decent writers.


I'm not really familiar with anything stan Lee wrote in particular. I'm only drawing on the very slim reference of some graphic novels that a friend showed me as a kid. I don't claim to be a precise expert of the whole genre. I just know it's there.
 
Yeah, but that's kind of a distortion of the comic book industry (especially the superhero comics, which don't really have a huge amount of sexual content on average), and doesn't reflect Stan Lee's work in the media at all. If anything, he kept his comics pretty conservative when it came to risque material, and besides Striperella (which I believed he only co-created), his other post-Marvel projects have been similarly clean as well.

And Marvel didn't really start merchandising until after Stan Lee gave up writing, so that's that.
 
Back
Top