When Cartoons That SHOULD Have Been Good Go Bad

The Smurfs: When they decided to get some new characters Sasette, Smurflings, Grand'pa Smurf and then Savage Smurf, Grand'ma Smurf, you realized then the show begin to ran out of steam. Then the idea to let some Smurfs being time-travellers seems to be the final nail in the coffin.
 
Yeah, I get what your trying to say. Though, at the early season from The Simpsons, not everyone was dumb. It was more like...Absentminded.
The problems and events what the simpsons made wasn't like family guy or how SpongeBob are.
But...Thats me.
 
In my opinion, a lot of cartoons that start out strong go bad over time, TMNTclassic is a pure case of this, as is X-Men with it's later episodes becoming different in look, sound and feel. It happens :sad:
 
I sort of zoned out of Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends after the start of Season 2. There's funny jerks from other shows (Bender, Master Shake, Zim, etc.) and then there's Bloo. And that's not even getting into Bendy and all that.
 
Let me try to head this off at the pass. The title of this thread IS misleading. Sorry about that. Is there a way to change the title without starting a whole new thread?

Anyway, it should have been titled WHEN CARTOONS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD GO BAD.

Please read the 1st post before posting your thoughts. This thread is about anytime you've ever been really amped for a new cartoon and how or why you were disappointed when that new cartoon failed to deliver or live up to the hype/your expectations. Also, please feel free to suggest what you think could have made those shows better.

Again, sorry for the mix-up. My first thread and all that.

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As super-forced as it was, I have a soft spot for Danny/Sam. Still, this is a good example. Great concept, interesting characters...completely torpedoed by being filtered through the Butch Hartman formula (sacrificing everything in the name of cheap jokes). It boggles the mind that it finished in this site's list of best cartoons of the decade. (I imagine that it made the list because of what people wanted it to be as opposed to what it actually was.) With better writing, a more appropriate score and, of course, better writing, it could've easily have been the classic its fans hold it up to be.
 
I agree. I initially thought that Fosters was a great idea and the premier was really cool. I think that it just put too much focus on Bloo being a jerk, even though he didn't seem like one in the premier, while being with Mac and other imaginary friends. Though, I think that the movies, Good Wilt Hunting and Destination Imagination, were terrific, if only because they weren't like the show. Or at least focused more on other more likable characters to me.
 
I forgot to mention that I didn't think Danny Phantom had that much filler, definitely not eighty percent, in my last post. I thought quite a few episodes in the last season were filler-like, but I haven't seen that season in ages, so I could be wrong. Or maybe I'm thinking of the villain of the week episodes that the series had every now and then. I think that you have a good point about the show's structure. There was constant continuity, but you didn't have to watch all of the previous episodes in order to understand the current season or new episode. It would obviously help and make the character interactions more meaningful, but it wasn't necessary like other shows with heavy continuity.
 
Nah, you're not wrong - I was just speaking in an overall term. Season Three had a terrible case of unnecessary filler episodes, most of which I find either average or terrible. The last season did have its own structure/plot arc that culminated into the last episodes, so I guess there's some creditability to give, it's just frustrating when they ignored the unanswered plots and character arcs from the last two seasons.
 
Nobody seems to have mentioned "Extreme Ghostbusters" yet, so I will do it now. As a big fan of the franchise, I felt that this cartoon was a big let down. I liked it a little bit as a kid, but looking back it is not that good. Here are some of the things I dislike about it.

#1. The Ghostbusters we all know and love (Peter, Ray, Egon, and Winston) have been replaced by college students. These are not the Ghostbusters, they are just kids with proton packs.

#2. Darker atmosphere. As dark as "The Real Ghostbusters" may have been at times, at least it was also light-hearted, colorful, and comical at times. Not so much with "EGB".

#3. Different animation style. DiC did a wonderful job with "RGB". "EGB" just did not have as good a look.

#4. Eduardo, the Hispanic guy. He's basically Venkman without laughs. Slimer was the only character who was remotely amusing.

#5. Theme song. It was way too different than the Ray Parker Jr. song. At least "RGB" stuck close to it.

Who else agrees with me on this show?
 
I think your first complaint doesn't really hold up. Certainly there are many valid problems with the show (such as the ultra PC casting) but that first complaint reminds me of the fanboys who whine Batman Beyond doesn't count due to Terry being Batman. Both BB and EGB had a clear plot of 'a new generation is trained by the first and continue their legacy'. Fair do if you'd rather see more adventures of the original iconic Ghostbusters but it's not really fair to fault the show for wanting to widen the mythos with a new cast. They even did a team up story after all.
 
Bloo honestly just grew more annoying IMO. But when it comes to annoying... I think Cheese and Goo take the tie.

Yes, for the record, I do hate Goo. Apparently I'm strange for this. I'm sorry that for the entire episode she first appeared in, I did not have any sympathy for her whatsoever and found her to be a royal pain. Adding her to the cast was essentially useless. Just added more annoyances to the newer episodes. :/

Actually, the movie promised a lot more than the series in general really gave. Maybe that's just me though.
 
Yes, and that episode was the best in my opinion. It was good to see the old guys again.

I'm not a Ghostbusters fanboy, and I do not exactly hate "EGB" with a passion. As I said, I sort of liked it as a kid. The plots for each episode were original for the most part, and some even seemed like they were inspired by episodes of RGB. I just don't think this series has held up as well as "RGB".

Also, about my first comment, I should have worded it a little better. I don't think the new characters are really as memorable as Peter, Ray, Egon, or Winston. At least Egon was a character in the series, but it was more of a supporting role.
 
The Simpsons is an excellent example of a great mark on media history turning rotten and sour. The first seasons shown the true spirit of the Simpsons, but due to the fact that it's the longest running TV show to this day, the Well of Plots and Storylines had run dry.
 
The movies were great because they actually explored the premise a little. In Good Wilt Hunting, we got to see the people who imagined the friends in the first place, and got to see why Wilt looks the way he does. The most fun I thought was how all of Eduardo's odd quirks made perfect sense after we saw his creator.

Destination Imagination took a look at what happens when a friend doesn't want to be taken away, amplified by the fact that he was, in the confines of the box, a reality warper.

Of course, it also helped that the stories themselves were good, but I thought it was cool how they actually showed a side to the imaginary friends besides "they're like normal people, only they look weird".
 
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