When Cartoons That SHOULD Have Been Good Go Bad

Ah, no. Doc and Drew Saturday are not overbearing. At all. They are friendly, supportive and nurturing parents who have barely ever raised their voices or their hands to their son Zak. They let their son go with them on their adventures, and train him and try to teach him to hone his powers, plus they're always around to save Zak from himself since, frankly, Zak is a little hard-headed, impulsive and reckless. Add to that how neither one of them is a dufus, a psycho or a perpetual absentee.

Plus they treat and acknowledge their cryptid pets as their "children" and Zak's "siblings". What overbearing parent would do that?

I don't know which "good characters" you're referring to who were gotten rid of, but I will (partially agree with you that Argost and Van Rook do have more victories over the Saturdays. But in the case of Argost, the Kur Stone plot is a story arc, so I'm guessing that there will be suitable payoff in the future.
 
Some is, some isn't. You'd have to check the database for specifics. :P

Second on all of the Star Wars stuff. Egad the Thrawn Trilogy would make a KICKASS series. But noooo, we get more clone wars. >.
 
I'm playing devil's advocate because I adore that film. It's not perfect, but I love that movie (I guess it's a guilty pleasure?) Treasure Planet on the other hand I thought as average. There wasn't much oomph to it and was rather straightforward. I think it would have been better if the characters weren't so strictly one-dimensional and/or boring. That was the case for Atlantis, but I enjoyed their presence due to their interesting quirks and clever one-liners.

I'm tired of that, too (I would love to see more series devoted to teens who are either sure of themselves or who are popular, but they just work around it - In fact, I wouldn't mind seeing a popular shallow teen as the main lead; they, too, can have layers that make them human if they try), but I feel part of the reason lies in the idea that Danny at the very beginning of the series remains virtually unsure of himself. He's trying to find his path. He had yet to embrace his heroic identity soon and because of his simple-minded view, the easily accepted norm would be popularity because it's something as oppose to nothing - the quickest way to a surefire identity. Repeated offenses showed that simply isn't the case.

To be far, he gets character development and he no longer deals with this issue because his superheroism overtakes his shallow needs (the high school element gets less important as the series progresses), to the point where popularity is an annoyance to him.
 
Don't worry, I just mean the 4Kids dub. Hence me saying 4Kids dub in my first post.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say "Teen Titans". Now, there certainly were good parts to it, and I know a lot of people liked it, but I think it could have been better. Some stories which look really good on paper- the Terra and Trigon arcs- weren't executed as well as they could have been.
 
I wonder if the Nostalgia Critic should do a review of DiC and some of their really cheap animated shows that we didn't realize were stupid until we grew up.
 
Titan A.E. really hurt. That movie was an exercise in wasted potential. Humans became a race without a home in a time where a homeworld was a status symbol. I remember being excited for that one, too, especially being a huge Don Bluth fan.

The Godzilla series really imploded, too. I recall saying, "This is gonna fix everything that was wrong about that movie!" only to have the cartoon end up being like watching the film all over again, but in 30-minute blocks over the course of a year. Well, maybe it wasn't that bad. But between the annoying human characters and the nameless non-canon monsters he fought, that one was pretty much doomed from the start.

Ben 10: Alien Force is a bitter pill because that show really deserves to be better. I think Glen Murakami is under incredible pressure from the network, because rumor has it he's not even happy with the show as it stands right now. Ben 10's biggest problem, in my opinion, is that nobody working on that show seems to be having any fun with it. The stories feel so labored - like they're such a burden to tell. You can feel it just watching them sometimes.

Here's another old one for you guys. There was a cartoon from the 80's called Dinosaucers that's right at the top of my list of wasted opportunities. It was about two warring armies of humanoid dinosaur... uh, warriors... from space. No, seriously. Anyway, the plant eaters battle the meat eaters using some fairly advanced future tech, so I know what you're thinking - Alien dinosaurs with sci-fi weapons bring their dino-war to Earth. Killer, huh?

No, not at all. The show devoted something like 80% of its screen time to the annoying-as-all-hell-and-damnation human characters, the evil Dinosaucers were dumber than dumb, and the good guys weren't much better. If this was any indication, I see why the dinosaurs became extinct. They were just too stupid to live. I suggest you guys try to watch an episode of that show, but only if you hate yourselves.:shrug:

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Wait..What?

I can see that for animated sitcoms, but anime? I`ve seen a lot of anime, and none even mention any of those issues, except 33 could be applicable to some.

Heck, even animated sitcoms say nothing is bad about being heterosexual.
 
I was disappointed with Gurren Lagann. It didn't live up to the hype that surrounded it, even though it wasn't a bad show per say.

Code Geass had the potential to be a good show, but I found it at times to be pretty medicore and other times downright bad.

BoBoBoBoBoBoBo had potential as it looked like a distinctly bizarre and silly show like no other made before it, but became stale pretty quickly not too long after the first few episodes.
 
He alreasy did review Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog, Captain Planet, and Super Mario Bros. Super Show (as well as giving positive reviews to Real Ghostbusters and Sonic SatAM).
 



M'kay, those aren't characterS, that's just 1 character.


Anyway, you mean Doyle, and you're missing the point. One, they didn't get rid of him for good; they clearly left it open-ended for a return appearance later on, and two, the guy was never meant to become a full-time team member, at least not right now. It was made patently obvious that Doyle wasn't a team player, and he was getting under Doc and Drew's skin (going so far as expecting the Saturdays to pay him a salary for his services whlie he was staying under their roof rent-free) and undermining their authority too much for the 3 of them to peacefully co-exist, not to mention the affect he was having on Zak. It just wasn't a good fit for Doyle to stay on the team permanently.

In any event, I'd hardly call that sufficient reason for deeming the show a failure. You can't fault the producers for not making your favorite character a regular when that was never their intention to begin with.
 
Another show I really liked at first but ended up hating was the ninties Spider-man cartoon. Not for the stock footage, not for the annoying censoring but for that final season. I believe that the show should have ended with "The Wedding" forgotten the whole fifth season. No six pointless warriors no hydro-Mary Jane, and especially worst ending ever "I'm sorry Peter but the princess is in another castle, er I mean Mary jane is in another reality. That fifth season IMO drained all the fun out of that show, but when I look back on the show the whole thing was never great.
 
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