What's wrong with protecting a private businesses rights?

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Please quote even a single post in this thread I made where I said anything about people's greed being stronger than racism.

Oh, right, I never said anything like that, and you are just proving that you can't even keep track of who says what.
 
Great, you know how things are. Pretty sure trying to figure out how things are isn't what we're talking about.
 
it doesn't matter. You do not have the right to discriminate against minorities. Live with it, rand.
 
Nice way to sum it up the wrong way. Sean Hannity would be proud.



Where did I ever say "it should be illegal?"
 
you are supporting discrimination and racism, whether or not you care to admit it.
 
Are you going to try to make an argument, or nit-pick with rhetorical questions?

Yawn
 
I don't support government mandates on who to associate with, and I do support someone's right to think whatever they want. If you think either of these are same as supporting racism, you are yet again showing how simple minded you are.
 
That's true, and I wouldn't patronize a place that discriminated so, but humiliating someone isn't (and shouldn't be) illegal. So if you're going to make the argument that discrimination should be illegal because it can be harmful, you'll have to provide a reason other than humiliation.
 
Hi there.
Do you, or have you ever, owned a business?

Let's say you own an auto repair shop. You like working on those big old classic cars. They're simple, have lots of room to work in, and parts are cheap. A friendly government agent comes to visit you in your auto repair shop, and says that you're being sued for discrimination. You see, Wang Chung came by for an oil change in his Kia Sedona the other day, and you told him "sorry, we don't serve your make here". He was terribly offended. You now are being forced to service all makes and models of automobiles, from Chevy to Mitsubishi to Toyota and beyond. You can no longer engage in "age" discrimination, either, so you must work on the newest cars with all their vacuum hoses and techocrap as well as the classics you enjoy working on.

What would BadASSMan do?
 
if you can't have the option of lying to your customers then it's not a private business.
 
All your arguments are fucking stupid. You seem to think we are advocating people to turn away minorities from their business. What we are ACTUALLY advocating is a business owners right to determine who he does business with based on whatever criteria he wants.

NO FUCKING SHIT it doesn't make sense to turn him away from buying your car because he's black, but it's not your car so it's not your decision to make.
 
You're right, because we have a nanny-state government. If something is legal to do, then it should be legal to do on any property that you own. Regardless of whether or not the public is invited onto that property.
 
Idealism is idealism. It doesn't work in practice. We live in a better society thanks to the Civil Rights act.
 
Just like you. No I am not. What I am suggesting is that some people if given that choice, would gladly turn minorities away from their business. The whole reason these laws were put in place is because people (even business owners) can be unreasonable. Okay.


Tootsie Pop?
 
No shit property and services are different, WTF point are you trying to make?

Say I own a building that I run a business that offers services from. You feel you have a right to come on to my property and a right to use my services.
 
A guy loses his asthma inhaler while driving across the country. He stops at a pharmacy to get another one, but the pharmacist won't sell him one, citing the man's race. The asthmatic man dies. This outcome is acceptable, no better or worse than those resulting from any other set of choices the man and the pharmacist could make, so long as those choices are freely made. Right?

I think that there is a moral imperative on all of us to be minimally decent to each other. If someone doesn't want to let a person into their house (or restaurant, or prepare their taxes, or sell comic books to them) because of their race or religion, I guess that's within their rights. That same discrimination can drastically affect other people's lives, though, when applied to essential goods and services. Why not require businesses concerning those essential things to be conducted without discrimination? Am I being unreasonable?
 
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