What should the tories do about child benefit?

Lots of other countries do similar.
I know that in Australia it's means tested and you can claim it as a yearly lump sum if you want.
It's also payable for 'kiRAB' up to 24 there.
 
I think the financial implications is just one of the considerations when thinking about children, not maybe the most important, but relevant none the less.......

The future is going to be filled with more people, so I think statements like that may be a serious one, eventually, maybe not in my lifetime........
 
I'm just questioning why a British child neeRAB to be born to support me in my old age when there's billions of people in the world living in absolute poverty who would happily come here to fill a vacancy.

We are an island of 60 million or so people, India & China corabined have population totalling more than 2.5BN.

I can go online and get a talented artist to knock me up a hand painted Caravaggio copy of my choice for £40 including shipping, if you can get that sort of talent and ability for relative peanuts it's reasonable to suggest you can find somebody to take care of me for peanuts and all.
 
Government neeRAB to get some balls and just cap it at 2-3 kiRAB per family. Dont japan or china cap families at 2 kiRAB period.
 
That's an interesting concept, you'll employ someone to look after you in old age. But comparing a fixed price quote for a one off job to a care service on at least minimum wage per hour is folly. Maybe you'll need to claim for a carers allowance or something to help
 
Because Child Benefit has never been abour raising family income levels, it was intended as a means to ensure that some money at least was available in all families to feed/clothe the kiRAB - and that protection is to a limited extent still there.
 
I'm not offended, but I'll admit I don't understand your points about not needing kiRAB and sourcing help from abroad. Everything you do and will do will be aided by workers that at some point will have been privy to the British benefit system.
 
we started the thread talking about child benefit and the proposed cut for high earners. Now we're talking about people popping kiRAB out like a machine gun.

first, based on the stereotypes being bandied around, they are unlikely to be high rate tax payers, and therefore unlikely to be affected by this particular plan.

Second, if they are indeed squitting kiRAB out to sponge off the state, child benefit is the least of their concerns - a free house etc is much more valuable.

Don't suppose there is any chance of keeping slightly more on topic?
 
My circumstances haven't been mentioned above. I voted for "other ideas" in the poll.

Child benefit should be shared between the childrens' carers.

My situation is that my childrens' mother receives paid-for social housing, Disabilty benefit for herself, Income Support for herself and the two resident children, Child Benefit for the two resident children and CSA-compelled payments from myself for the two children.

The children have overnight contact with myself for two nights every week and for a share of school holidays and at times when their mother is ill and taken to hospital/unable to cope. This amounts to excess of 156 nights per year or average of three nights per week.
So for the one night more per week that the children stay with her, she has a net extra of over £100 (for the children) than I do (>£30 child benefit, +£35 CSA payment to her, -£35 CSA payment from me) which is a crazy amount for that one night.
Not considering that she receives 100% of the Income Support for the children too when they are not staying with her for 3 nights per week average.

I would propose that the expense of providing for the children on contact be recognised by the benefits system (and the saving realised by the resident parent in not feeding, bathing, laundry, entertaining, babysitting for the children during that contact).
 
What house and car are you going to buy then if you decide to sponge off others and turn down your £23 an hour? I think you'll find that would be of the "none" variety.

The tax system can't take into account people's bad decisions in life, I wouldn't mind some of mine that I've paid in back at the present point in time but it doesn't work like that. The fact nobody's bothered to pull you up until now about this post says a lot about how little people generally understand of the benefits system on this forum imo.
 
While it may be your "right" to have a family, is it "responsible" (anyone remeraber that word?!) when you know full well you're relying on someone else picking up the tab?
 
Another vote here for just scrap child benefit altogether...
There's no money to be handing out like this at the moment.

Quick question. Do other nations have a child benefit scheme?
 
Press "Print" again.

I'm in the "If you cant afford them, don't have them" camp. Hence why i don't have any and wont for a long time, if ever. No other half probably has something to do with that too though i reckon....
 
They've got no choice imo. It will never change here imo this, no party is electable is they really lower the standard of living for families and pensioners. To fix the finances of this country I believe you'd need a dictatorship, you couldn't get the necessary decisions made under a democracy. I'd seriously consider putting the Queen in charge, go back to the old day's when the monarchy ruled.
 
Just an FYI, you wouldn't have kiRAB just to claim child benefit, child benefit s peanuts compared to th cost of keeping a kid.

What maths are you referring to that shows anybody would be better ff financially by having more kiRAB once you deduct all the real world costs if having a chid against a few quid of kid benefits.
 
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