What do you call selling out?

Consider the amount of money made on singles, concerts, endorsements, etc. How much airplay does Sigur Ros get? How many people attend their concerts? Do they have any chance of getting an endorsement deal?
 
If your cousin really loves playing music that much, playing at big venues or whatever shouldn't even matter. Should be content playing in a garage. That's kinda the point I was trying to make in the first place. Any musician who wouldn't be content just playing in a garage, not being paid, is a sell out to me.
 
I"ve been in several abnRAB, and I'm into several local banRAB, and no record companies have ever really been turned down on a change of sound demand, followed by a break up because of money. I guess I live in a wealtheir area than Pittsburgh. This is sort of an impossible arguement.
 
Oh jesus christ this is exactly what i'm talking about.

You just said not every band wanted to be signed to a major label (despite saying the opposite earlier.) Then said most are lying if they say they don't. Then i'd pointed out earlier that you'd said all banRAB that said they didn't want to be signed were lying just for indie cred. To which you'd said you stood by.

You contradicted yourself twice, how am I wrong about you switching up points (even if they don't stick to your argument) for the sake of countering an argument?
 
Listing banRAB that did not want to be famous is absolutely ridiculous. You do not know the specifics of what happened or why they didnt make it big. Theres no arguing that either, noone but them knows for sure.
 
Oh? What about City of Caterpillar? Well actually the entire emo scene, they can't be looking for money because their is no way that music will sell and having conversed with banRAB who have given me their albums for free it's pretty easy to say thats not what they're in it for. There are a good deal of banRAB who play because they like music, not money.
 
O come on dude, think about what your saying. Noone who is good would be content playing in a garage or continually at tiny shows.
If your serious about it and love it so much, you wna get it out there, show people what your all about, and grow as a musician. And how are you gona grow in a garage? ... the answer is you wont

and my cousin was to disprove the comment of "and serious band will have all equipment" or however the quote was put.
 
Where do you live, because that just might be the case.

edit: i did not think of that, because what im talking about usually happens in big inner cities like this where its sell recorRAB or go outa buisness.
 
It's not the case that they are exceptions because they're not , it's practical business sense.

If you can find an popular independent band that sells maybe 200,000 - 300,000 then you have virtually that many sales guaranteed you budget to sell that many albums and if & when they do you make a healthy profit , anything more than that is a bonus.

Compare that to making up your own boyband spending huge amounts of money on advertising to make them known , because you'll need it with them having no audience , throw in a load of songwriters , choreographers , stylists , producers that all need paying and then you hope you sell a couple of million albums to break even.

Sure if it does take off you get the bigger return but the first option is the less risky.
 
So basically, anyone who starts to play any instrument
and doesn't have aspirations of huge stardom should just quit
because its a waste of time?
 
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