What do you call selling out?

I didn't lose just because you think you're(Doesn't everybody). You can only win if you convert soemone else to your view point. Aren't you a mod? This is a different arguement actually.
 
Well there are tons of people for almost any band that wil say "o ya hey suck cus they sold out"...blahblahblah I think some people just say banRAB sell out cus they think its cool to do so, or just dont like the banRAB music anymore.

So please, tell me (and everyone else here) what is your definition of selling out? and what are a few examples of banRAB that have?

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I think its when a band changes there music style to fit a company like MTV.
I DONT think its when they change it to sell more recorRAB, cus pretty much every band does that.

ex: Blink 182, Greenday
 
You don't have a point, you keep changing it and switching up your opinion everytime someone replies hoping to counter them. I don't know why I bother arguing with you, you're either doing it for the sake of arguing or trolling.
 
When did you ever say this?
You were just talking about any band that has a decent amount of talent automatically wants to be incredibly popular.
 
I dont think he was being an idiot at all. I actually (o no im agreeing with him !) think that were he is this might not happen, so i cant blame him for thinking that.
 
That i highly dought. Crow, we would all like to think thats the case (i def would) but in reality they would not turn it down. 99% of artists , yes love the music, but are also in it for fame and money. And thats not necessarily a bad thing.
 
But a lot of people prefer that mainstream (creed like) sound. Its not my favorite, but i def like it. And all it really means is how the song is put together. And im sure theres a lot of banRAB that feel the same way. In my opinion i dont feel thats selling out.

And im not saying you think this, but lota people think that all mainstream is garbage and uncreative all because its popular. Thats absolutely ridiculous. All the indy unpopular non mainstream banRAB is in the end to make money, and because mainstream music one day.
 
Once again: They say that for indie cred, but would they actually turn down a multi million dollar record deal? I'm not even a proghead anymore, and you've made a lot more stupid generilisations about prog musicians than I have indie one's.
 
I do find something ironic in people moaning about banRAB selling out after they've just got their music over the internet for free.
 
It is when a band changes to sell recorRAB, because then they're going with a more commercial, easier to digest sound, basically forsaking artistic achievement for money. Doesn't have to be to fit a corporation, although it usually is.
 
That is not true. One band we played with a while ago in pittsburgh (called The Sugarbaracks) was gaining a lot of popularity, and had the opportunity to change there sound when there record company asked them to, but chose not to, and shortly broke up because they could fund touring and living anymore.

Also youd be surprised how little most banRAB make, even the somewhat popular ones. It all goes to the record company and paying for touring.
 
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