What Are Members Worth? (WAMW)

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Now I can see it from the other side of the coin as I left school with very few qualifications. My sister on the other hand was in full time education until she was 22 and like you, had qualifications coming out of here ear-holes. Did this prepare her for life - no way. Although I'm only a few years older than her the difference in our knowledge of and attitude to life was light years apart. Of course each person is different and some mature and adapt quicker than others but sometimes education can closet you.

TheFoX said:
Fortunately, I haven't progressed to 10b) as I have no wish to put my body through a gender change operation (the cost is prohibitive, apparently).
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I have a sharp knife and 2 bricks if you would like to progress that little further.
 
IdolEyes787 said:
True to a point but as someone whose got a couple of degrees floating around and I can tell you it's the process of education and not any particular knowledge that prepares you for life.
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I could tell that you are highly educated, IdolEyes. I cannot tell exactly what you have studied, but I do know that you know a lot. I would not want to play Trivial Pursuit with you. Your comment about Dostoevsky is a good example of your desire to learn. I would put you in the "well rounded" category. You can most likely spot others who have been formally educated as well. It isn't necessary to carry your degrees with you. I believe that a good education shows through in everything that one does. That is, unless they ignore what they have learned...
 
You bring up a very good point, realityhd!

I did not mention donations. While donations are a very important part of the BT community, they generally don't make you a "better" member. Many sites give VIP status or added upload credit for donating to the site, but I cannot think of one that would let even a substantial "philanthropist" such as yourself get away with breaking site rules. In particular, I like BMTV's stance on the "Elite" member:

BMTV Donation Page said:
Keep in mind that donation for ELITE status and Donator star does not exempt you from the auto ban for ratio.
Nor does it give you any Upload Credit. ELITE's should not lead by bad example anyway.
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In other words, you cannot buy your way into Heaven or out of trouble. :D

On a somewhat related note, I did not address ratios or high speed connections. It is very common for members to mention both of these when making an invite request.

A good ratio is simply part of following site rules and is a minimal qualification for membership.

A high speed connection or "seed box" is a plus, but there is no shortage of speed- especially on the most sought-after sites. Members giving invites like to know if their invitees can "keep up" when they give out invites to hard-to-seed sites, but it is really more of a plus than a huge asset to a site. However, it might come in handy if a site is trying to get off the ground and does not have very many members.

So, I would argue that donations, good ratios, and high speeds are all good, but members seeking invitations should focus on what else they can bring to a site when making a request.

Bottom line- Be fun, interesting, intelligent, and likable. If you have a long history of any/all of these things you will have more fun and you will get invited to more places. It works IRL and on the internets. :)
 
funny !
Maybe as level 10 (with 10a and 10b) you can add :
- Level 1a "The Noob" who wants to learn.
- Level 1b "The Noob" who doesn't care
 
megabyteme said:
Level 10b- Hot chicks who do exclusive webcam shows for the site members. This is the only "free pass" straight to the top. Just like IRL, if you are a hot chick who is willing to get naked, you probably don't need to offer anything else to the site. Anyone who says a negative word about you will be banned before they finish pressing [ENTER]. Generally, you are loved by everyone anyway.:yup:
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Psh, and we still have feminism...
 
Megabyteme, you put alot of thought into your post (as all of yours do), but I really have to ask you this.

What's the purpose of this list? Whats it supposed to accomplish?
 
Rart said:
What's the purpose of this list? Whats it supposed to accomplish?
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To get people to stop thinking about how great it would be to be part of one of the "elite" trackers and start thinking about what they actually bring to this community. Some will care, others won't.

I thought it would at least give people something to think about and maybe do a self-assessment. Would they even fit in to one of these "elite" sites if given "their dream" invite?
 
What is education?

The general consensus is that education is learning from established institutions.

While this is partly true, education is really taking note of life, and what you learn from it.

Life is our classroom. Ask any soldier who is serving, or has served, in a conflict and they will tell you any manner of lessons they have learned from warfare, including how precious life really is, or how short it can be.

Some people can take that life changing step, and walk into a better life, whereas others are frightened to climb out of the rut they live in.

An education can give us the knowledge to tackle academic issues, whereas life can give us the knowledge to tackle real issues. Academic knowledge cannot prepare us for the rough and tumble of life. Only experience of life itself can prepare us for what life has to offer.
 
well.. cheers MBM for being successful in making it look interesting..and it really made for an interesting read. :yup:
moving on, the 11 point scale of grading members was a bit stretched. It could have been easily condensed into 7 or 8 categories.But, anyway, the point you have raised is pretty valid..i give you a ten on ten for that.
i would have went on scrutinizing every aspect of this post, but i see that has already been done by folks.. and their concerns have been objectively addressed. Great job again MBM for putting it out well. :thumbsup:

PS: i took some time to think about the level i am presently at..and am pretty happy that i have progressed from level 1 to 3 as i understand the rules well..(I took my own good time..lol)
PPS: Networks.. another practical point raised by sez.. it does alter the equation in a big way.
 
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