Rock Firestorm
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I was talking someone about this and we literally could come up with four people - Jeter, Rivera, Pujols and Ichiro (both Pujols and Ichiro have put up the greatest first ten years any players have ever had and you can make a case they might be a year or two away from being a first ballot, I say after Puckett was a first balloter, that these are will be too, right now).
I personally would not make Rivera a first balloter but if Eck was, Rivera will be.
Is there anyone else? Now if you['re going to claim juicers, go post somewhere else (and you will be blocked). As we've learned, no juicer will ever be a first balloter and probably never get in period. So who else is there? There are a lot of definite future HOFers playing, like Halladay and Chipper but neither of those are first balloters yet (if you're going to claim either is a first balloter now, post somewhere else).
So is there anyone I'm missing? And again, we're talking active players (so for you illiterate 17 year olds who can't follow directions, that means they're still playing)
Irod is a juicer and will follow the paths of the other juicers. Trevor Hoffman is not active.
Thome, Vlad and those other folks you guys are mentioning are definitely HOFers but if they retired today would NOT be a first balloter. I love Thome too and I also am of the belief he's clean and I think most writesr believe that too but no home run hitter like that will get in on the first ballot, espeically in teh day and age of the home run and small ballpark where third string outfielders are hitting 20 home runs a year. 20 years ago, Thome would be a first balloter without question but not in this day and age. However, he will in.
And Nate, I am also of the belief Helton belongs - he definitely won't be a first balloter but that is a guy who absolutely has played at a HOF level and gets hurt because of that park when it comes to the conversation, however if it was that much of a difference, every player would put up those numbers. I hate when they hold a park against someone - if it stops him from being a HOFer, then don't have a ML team there, I say.
It's amazing, even though I say "active players only" I still get nitwits who can't tell the difference. I will never understand the stupidity of some of the folks who post here. Never ceases to amaze me. I really thought putting it in an insulting way might get the illiterates to understand what "active only" really means but it apparenlty meant nothing to them.
I personally would not make Rivera a first balloter but if Eck was, Rivera will be.
Is there anyone else? Now if you['re going to claim juicers, go post somewhere else (and you will be blocked). As we've learned, no juicer will ever be a first balloter and probably never get in period. So who else is there? There are a lot of definite future HOFers playing, like Halladay and Chipper but neither of those are first balloters yet (if you're going to claim either is a first balloter now, post somewhere else).
So is there anyone I'm missing? And again, we're talking active players (so for you illiterate 17 year olds who can't follow directions, that means they're still playing)
Irod is a juicer and will follow the paths of the other juicers. Trevor Hoffman is not active.
Thome, Vlad and those other folks you guys are mentioning are definitely HOFers but if they retired today would NOT be a first balloter. I love Thome too and I also am of the belief he's clean and I think most writesr believe that too but no home run hitter like that will get in on the first ballot, espeically in teh day and age of the home run and small ballpark where third string outfielders are hitting 20 home runs a year. 20 years ago, Thome would be a first balloter without question but not in this day and age. However, he will in.
And Nate, I am also of the belief Helton belongs - he definitely won't be a first balloter but that is a guy who absolutely has played at a HOF level and gets hurt because of that park when it comes to the conversation, however if it was that much of a difference, every player would put up those numbers. I hate when they hold a park against someone - if it stops him from being a HOFer, then don't have a ML team there, I say.
It's amazing, even though I say "active players only" I still get nitwits who can't tell the difference. I will never understand the stupidity of some of the folks who post here. Never ceases to amaze me. I really thought putting it in an insulting way might get the illiterates to understand what "active only" really means but it apparenlty meant nothing to them.