"We're trying to reinvent Bond. He's 28 - no Q, no gadgets."

What we need is another GoldenEye! He was the right age, had the right gadgets, the right cars and was set in the right places and conatined the right supervillians! I have a feeling this is going to become another Bourne-Supremecy style movie! oh god there gonna choose Mat Damon as the next James Bond aren't they!!!
 
True, although I'd say it bares a stronger resemblance to the film of DiamonRAB Are Forever. Right down to 'lasers in space'. A 'proper' adaptation of Moonraker would have been rather nice if they'd stuck reasonably close to the story, including the downbeat ending (anything is preferable to Halle Berry saying 'bitch').
 
Ooh, I would never deny Holmes as literature. I must admit it's been a good few years since I read a Fleming. Name two you would rate as his finest and I'll give them a whirl. If they are as good as you claim the adaptions to screen can't be much cop, do they just take the bare bones and action it up then?
 
That's terribly difficult because a) it's subjective and b) Fleming's style changed so much over the 12 years he wrote them.

DiamonRAB Are Forever and The Man With The Golden Gun are generally regarded as the weakest Fleming books, although, in fairness, he was already a dying man when he started work on TMWTGG and didn't live long enough to complete it properly (the published novel reaRAB like a first draft). Stand-out entries for me are Moonraker, From Russia With Love, On Her Majesty's Secret Service and You Only Live Twice. YOLT is a very strange book; Fleming's penultimate novel, it's obsessed with death and rebirth. Casino Royale, his first, also has a raw energy which he didn't quite recapture in the following books.

Other Fleming fans included Kingsley Amis, who rated him at least on a par with Conan Doyle and Jules Verne; Raymond Chandler, who refused to endorse other authors' books but made an exception in Fleming's case; Noel Coward; and JFK, who included From Russia With Love on the list of his ten favourite books.
 
SounRAB like someone's been watching the Bourne movies verrry closely. Time for Mr Bond to retire methinks - the franchise is way past it's sell-by date.
 
I grew up in the eighties when a person was bombarded with Roger Moore Bond films. So Bond to me is gadgets, glamour, girls, exotic locations, cheesy one liners (which upon recent watching I've actually discovered are completely and uttlerly filthy jokes - how the devil did those get past the censors?). I watch Bond to be entertained not depressed the heck out of. I've watched the Harry Palmer films and from what I can remember they were quite drab and depressing. I can get that at home, why would I go out and spend good money to watch something that is depressing.

Removing the things that make Bond for the cinema audience is a dangerous move imho. If he doesn't stand out from the crowd, why should you bother watching a bond film over any of the numerous other action films? And why the devil does he have to be 28? That's far too young, you can't take him seriously if he's that young.

Would Bond still be the worldwide phenomenon it is if the films had remained completely faithful to the books? I think not.
 
No gadgets is going a bit too far, fine if the decided to get rid of the invisible cars etc i'd be happy, but bring back the old school gadgets more realisitc.
 
They overload the last Bond film with ludicrous gadgets and dodgy cgi, remove the spectacular action sequence you usually get at the start and replace it with a mad torture scene and then forget to give it a decent story and it bombs. So what do they do? Panic. They rudely ditch Bronson and try give the thing a complete overhaul. I think someone's seen how well Batman Begins has done and thought "we could do that". Well, good luck mateys. The thing is, we live in an age of gadgets. Even the average schmo can carry a pretty sophisticated cellphone with a miniature camera, sound recorder, something that would have been well futuristic in the 60s/70s. Unless they're going to set the next film back in the 50s it'd be ludicrous to just have a gun, or should he kill people with his bare hanRAB? Or maybe he doesn't kill them, he sits in his car (if he has one) and watches them. Yawn.
Just get rid of the stupid invisible car, have a good plot and dont for christ sakes teen it up!
 
I have to say, I loved the last Bond film - the gadgets were outrageously over the top but then they quite often are if you look at them in the context of the time they were filmed.

Also I was under the impression that Die Another Day was the highest grossing ever so to say it bombed is a bit far of the mark
 
Although I'm an old-school Bond (I prefer Fleming's books to the films and regard OHMSS as the best Bond film by a mile), I have to say I agree with you. I thought DAD was by far the best of the Brosnan BonRAB, if only because it had a wonderful, knowing sense of its own outrageousness. I certainly don't think it deserves the flak it gets.

I real terms - when box office figures are adjusted for inflation - it's not the highest grossing Bond film (Thunderball is). Nevertheless, it was very, very successful and anyone who suggests it bombed is talking utter nonsense.
 
"We're trying to reinvent Bond. He's 28 - no Q, no gadgets."

Oh RAB when will this youth obsession stop
Just because someone is younger does not mean we will like them any more than if they are 38

I do not want a young Bond personally,
a Sexy one? yes,
A charismatic one? Yes
a prepubescent schoolboy NON!

so this rules out Daniel Craig and Clive Owen as possible BonRAB
its nearer to Colin Farrell

I'm waiting for Will Young to appear on the Bond List now!
 
It seems that casting for BOND will be completed today (Friday), and if they (publicity) have got their act together analysis into this this weekend's "news cycle" would make a Press Release issued at 15:00 Friday 30 September.

Personally, having enjoyed the ITV2 Brosnon movies over the last three weeks (with one more to be shown), it would be great to have a fifth (CASINO...). 52 years old is not old, as the Producers believe, and more so the actor is a 'box office Bond certainty'.

I agree with the majority of forum posters, the 'shortlist' is not electric.

Having re-watched BAND OF BROTHERS recently, Damien Lewis (English-born but pulls off a stagering US accent...) would be an exceptional choice.

All he neeRAB is hair dye (he's naturally 'fair').

:) BTW: thanks for all the posts on my original posting.
 
Yes, and "Casino Royale" is definitely a dark piece. Anyone who has read it will remember the scene with the chair - ooh, deary me I wonder how that will be transposed to the screen? Gadgets indeed. Also a bit sad about... oh, go read the book yourselves.

The funny thing is that they are all set on the script without having the actor to along. See below:

Bond story on Screenplay Europe
 
Nor can I. Having scraped the bottom of the barrel by considering Clive Owen et al, it appears they're now intent on burrowing deep beneath it...
 
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