Welp, shit just got real. Debt ceiling talks went nowhere today and the markets fuct

Agreed, I mean I don't know how big the financial impact would be and it would certainly have an impact on employment, but it's the right thing to do. Also dug addiction is a disease not a crime.
 
the bigger picture is that both sides are playing for the same team. bigger picture is that this country has thrived on the belief that the blacks are the reason why your life sucks, not because the elite is cleaning your clocks



alittle from column A, a little from column B. i'm actually going to see a therapist soon because i'm growing increasingly nutty
 
Fair enough, I mean I think we probably feel the same way about hard drugs personally, I would never do them and I agree they can be deadly and have destroyed many lives. That said, I still think they should be legalized, and even people as polite and well-meaning as you can be frustrating when I feel that you use gut feelings and personal anecdotes as the substance of your views in the face of logic, reason, and statistics. But again that's just like, my opinion man. besides I'd much rather argue with you than OT gun crew like I usually do.
 
So is alcohol, and guess what happened when it was illegal during the Prohibition? People still drank, gangsters shot each other and the cops over turf, etc. Legalizing it is not going to turn everyone into a monster drug addict, and I think you're way off if you think many people will be buying "meth, crack, and PCP corabos" at CVS. There is a huge difference between a pack of Marlboro's and PCP.
 
A deal will get made last minute with shit in the bill to fuck us down the line.

Dems and Reps will be praised as hero's for reaching a bi-partisan decision.

If for some reason it doesn't get signed it will affect the entire world market not just our own. Probably something to the scale of Lehman x 10.
 
It's not the government's place to protect people from themselves. People have the right to make as many bad decisions as they damn well please. Drugs, garabling, prostitution...any and all of that is nothing more than the government trying to legislate morality. I wish people would step up and stop letting them do it.
 
Okay, you simply missed my point. The widening is due mostly to falling revenue. My point isn't even that spending isn't a problem, it's that the default argument in these shitty threaRAB from people with only a casual understanding is that "SPENDING IS OUT OF CONTROL" and it's generally from a short-term perspective based on the idea that Obama is causing all of it.

My point: revenue is also a problem.
 
Is that really how you read that graph? I read it to say that from 1990 to ~2007 spending went from ~1.2 trillion to ~2.8 trillion. For nice easy math, we'll call it 2.9 trillion. So 17 years, 1.7 trillion, or 100 billion a year.

From 2007 to 2011 it went from ~2.8 trillion to ~3.7 trillion. 900 billion difference in 4 years, or 225 billion a year. Over double the rate of the previous 17 years.
 
This or it gets loaded with a bunch of crap to get it passed like a corporate tax holiday and a new CPI calculation.

Whoohoooo 1% inflation forever.
 
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