Was it improvements in public education or Guiliani kicking a$$ that cleaned up NYC?

curious george

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some guy posted on another question that New York's turnaround was due to better public education - that, I believe, is rubbish. The government cracked down on crime and cleaned it up. Your thoughts?
 
Rudy. Awesome..

The people who started doing their jobs and stopped misbehaving were already grown up at the time.
 
It wasn't the crime crackdown alone. Giuliani -- whatever his faults, and they were legion -- also literally cleaned up the City. Despite having a hundred reasons to hate his guts (and he certainly had guts to hate), I always believed that Giuliani loved his City.

By contrast, Bloomberg doesn't. He doesn't seem to give a damn as long as he's in charge. Emblematic of this is that the City needs to be cleaned up again. Crime is roughly where it was when Bloomy took over from Rudy, but the streets are filthy again. What does Bloomberg care? He doesn't ride the Subway. (He only says he does.) He's got Gracie Mansion and his 5th Avenue penthouse and his limo. He sees about as much of the real City as somebody living in Los Angeles watching "Law & Order" on Channel 4 does. In other words, to him, the hard part of living in New York is just something he sees on TV.

And don't forget, a big part of the crime cleanup was the crime bill in 1994. Signed into law by President Clinton. Liberal Democrat. Giuliani liked it a lot. Stood by Clinton's side as he signed it into law. This was before Giuliani decided he wanted to be President and moved to the right of Hermann Goering.
 
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