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The other thing is, I don't think she (he?) mentioned the MG of the pills. I was "only" taking four a day (split into various dosages), but they were 15 MG apiece -- so it was equivalent to taking TWELVE of the 5 MG tabs per day! I could scream when I think of how I used to get by with only ONE 5-MG pill per day...this drug is insidious.
 
hi
yes im takeing at this time perc 5/325.8 aday (sometimes 10) The part that confuses me is when i run out of the perc ive been able to go to(8) vic 5/500 with maybe just minor withdrawl symptoms anxious,diarhea,tired but nothing i even relized until i started to do reasearch. I guess im scared of withdrawls but i think im more scared of living a life on pills.
 
dropping from 8-10 to 6 might be a little step, but you can always see how your body reacts to it. Everyone is different. Personally, I would stay at 6 a day for a week once I got there and then try 5 a day. See how your body tolerates after a few days and drop to 4. For me dropping from 6 tablets to 1 tables a day went fairly smoothly, but I did have withdrawals because I wasn't splitting my dose into equal portions throughout the day. Going from 10 mg Oxy to 5 mg Oxy was a chore and so far going below 5 mg/day has been a disaster.

My main problem is I was too aggressive trying to get off of the drug. I know now that I need to take baby steps taking it down to zero. I WILL get there - I just know that it won't be on my insanely, aggressive schedule. I didn't then and still don't know how powerful the body is addicted to this drug and how violently it can react. The word of the day is, "baby steps." Repeat after me, "Baby step. " Thank you.
 
I have tried to follow the recommendation of (Reachout I think?), in figuring out the percentage of each reduction in dose. For example, if you are taking six 5-mg pills a day (30 mg) and drop to five, that's a reduction of 16%. If you're taking two 5-mg pills a day (10 mg) and drop to one, that's a reduction of 50%. I'm trying to keep my reductions under 10% each few days....hoping that keeps my WRAB to a minimum...we'll see...fingers crossed.
 
erie123,

First of all... WELCOME!!! This is the first I have been able to post to you!! Your story is a lot like mine in regarRAB to your addiction.. The feelings of be confident... social... outgoing.. It was exactly the way it affected me and I was a social person to start out with!! Those drugs just amplified it and made me feel so good.. (or so I thought)

It sounRAB to me that you are ready for this!!! I wanted to show you my support and wish you luck as you start your taper!! This website was my life line because I too was too ashamed to tell anyone.. To this day I have not uttered a word to ANYONE besides people on this site. I am now 95 days clean!!!!! You can be too!!!

Keep posting and ask anything.. Someone will have an answer to you..
You are in my thoughts and prayers!
~Secrets
 
Hello
Ive been reading over all of your posts and threaRAB.... and for once i dont feel alone.:angel: I do have some questions. Ive been abusing per and vic for 2 yrs now.If i couldnt have percs i would get vics vice versa ... and within the last 6months i am at my all time high of 8 2 10 a day ,im starting to feel like now im only takeing them to chase the high im not reaching any more. If that makes sense..Im becomeing irritable because the great feeling is no longer lasteing. So i believe its time. I am now strictly only useing for the mental part anyways. I started 2 yrs ago because of a pinch nerve and i fell in love with the high, the confindance was amazeing, i started do so much more, i was social,fun,creative outspoken ect. Now im irritable,becomeing anxious as the pills wears off quicker, disgusted with all the money ive blown, irritable that i let this happen, scared of withdrawlas and how my life will change. D But i want a change id rather shop then buy pills. I dont want to spend every min thinking,planning everything around them anymore.
I like some of you have told NO ONE of this. Im ashamed:confused:. I want to quit. I would like some feed back on a taper for me would you jump down to 6 a day? At this time i just cant do cold turkey. Im scared. I live at home with my parents, they have no idea, my frienRAB would never even suspect. I am ashamed. I would liked to taper i have xanax that i could take to help wd what else should i get? I take a antidepressent daily celexa.Not sur if that will help?
To all who help thanks
 
the problem i have is i get perc and vics from 2 seperate sources. So when i run out of perc i go to vic 5/500 and so on. so around 3 wks i take about 10 5/325 perc and then i run out and get vic 5/500 and take about 8 so what i was asking is should i just pick one? for example pick vic and scratch out getting anymore perc.? its confusing thanks for listening .
 
That's the part I keep messing up on and I have been looking at dose quantities and not percentages. I kept dropping 50% and having bad withdrawals. I went back up to 5 mg Oxy the last two days, and I'll start tapering again. Slowly...
 
Hello erie123, Welcome to the group. You came to the right place for help.

A little about what I am going through to give you an idea. In Septeraber, I injured my neck and was in the most severe pain of my life. I was places on a variety of pain reducing pills, one being Percocet. I relate to Percocet by the amount of Oxycodone in it, since there are so many different formulas for it.

At my worst I was taking 60 mg of Oxy a day and occasionally 80 mg for the pain. In mid Deceraber just before surgery was going to be scheduled, I woke up one morning and the pain was gone. I still have nurabness in my hand, but I can live with that!

I tapered from 60 mg/day to 10 mg/day over a one month period and I did experience moderate withdrawals during that time. I never understood the drug I was taking and I didn't even know that the withdrawals were associated with me tapering down off of the drug. One day I decided to stop taking them and It was one of the worst experiences of my life. I lasted 50 hours before I broke and grabbed the pill bottle. I then joined this group.

The people here explained to me that I need to taper more slowly. I finally found that if I split the daily dose in two and take one in the morning and one at night, I didn't experience withdrawals. I continued to cut my dose as my body would allow me and I kept reducing. I'm now down to 2.5 mg once a day and I'm looking to be off completely soon. I have yet to have a single dose today and I'll see how far I can go without it.

Your one statement concerns me. You want to taper down to 6 pills a day. Do you have a need to be on 6 pills a day or is that a comfortable level for your dependency? Do you want to get off completely? Make your plan to taper to ZERO if you want to get off. Give us more info so we can help. Besides here, also look for support groups in you local area.
 
erie123 - you were up to 50 mg/day of Oxycodone - That's the drug part - 10 Perc a day is bad for you because of the Acetaminophen that is in it. That will damage your liver.

I was on 60+ mg/day when I started my detox. I'm now down to 5 mg/day 1-1/2 months later. Withdrawals: Yes, you ache like you have the flu, I shake, have nervous legs, I'm anxious, I agitate easily (or as my son says, I agitate easIER), I have abdominal muscle contractions, sweats, and I can't sleep. My mind spins like a top and I physically crave the oxycodone, which will eventually cause me to mentally crave it. I can't seem to get below 5 mg/day no matter how hard I try. I am now trying to get into an in-patient facility to finish my journey (or nightmare) off of this "doctor induced dependency." Some people can get through the withdrawals and I think I would do better if I could just sleep at night.

I would do anything to get off the pills right now. Anything! I don't want to live this way. It was not my choice to become dependent on the pills and I just want off so I can get back to my normal life.

Just to clarify - my major neck pain is gone, but not all of my chronic pain that I just live with. I say I'm pain-free, but I refer only to my neck injury and not the chronic back pain and sciatica that I live with everyday.
 
No, I was pointing out the taking 10 Percs a day can damage your liver. Mine isn't damaged that I know of. You have to see how your body will handle tapering. Most people have told me to tape 10% at a time, wait a few days and see how your body handles it. You have to go slow. What dosage of Percs are you taking? 5/325 or 10/325? Some people have been able to go cold turkey if that have been on low dosages for a short time.

The best thing to do is try a lower dose and see what happens. If you have withdrawals (and you WILL know if you have them), then go back up and try a lower taper dose. Every person's body is different and will react differently.

I'm at Day 3 of going cold turkey for the 2nd time (1st time was a disaster because I tried it when I was at too high of a dose). I'm doing great with no withdrawals!

Let us know how you do.
 
I think you first need to decide and absolutely make a commitment to get off of the drugs, because they are controlling your life. Talk to a doctor, even if you need to find a new one to keep it all confidential from your regular doctor. Tell them what you are now taking, what you have been taking, how long you have been taking them and be absolutely honest with them. Tell them you need help and you need to quit. If you have insurance, you can go into detox and just take a week vacation from work so that nobody knows. You can be discrete about it and still get the help you need. The pills will kill you eventually. But, ONLY YOU can make the choice to stop. ONLY YOU can take that first step to get help. ONLY YOU can make the commitment to yourself to stop the drugs and start living all over again!

There is not a single person on this group that will tell you it is easy. It will be the hardest thing you will ever do in your life! You will be so tempted to go back on again. Ahhh... just one more pill won't hurt... It will kill you! You will have to resist the temptation for the rest of your life. But, look at all of the people on this group that have done it. It is something to be proud of and your new life will unfold before you once you have made it to the end.

Please! Get the help you need and let us help you through the process to stop the drugs.
 
denon
it seems to me that you have tapered almost down to nothing. Congrats on that. As for the withdrawls ... i have not started them yet but doing alot of reading it seems that its different for everyone hopefully i can handle the slow taper and deal with the withdrawls. As for the liver why is yours damaged? i am aware that Acetaminophen isnt good for your liver.Sadly that was not on my mind while i was getting addicted. Im hopeful i found this site and will continue to post durning my taper.
 
secrets1983
Thank you so much for the support. Wow 95 days clean?
I would love to know more about you... did you taper? How long did it take?
What were your withdrawls like?
congrats on staying sober.:wave:
 
No one here can prescribe meRAB for you. Please consult with a qualified medical professional for specific medication recommendations.
 
Right on Denon. I couldn't have said it better myself. Erie you will feel so much better when you taper down. I felt the exact same way you did. I wanted to spend the money on other things and wanted to save money which today makes me feel better. saving money makes me feel safe knowing I have a back up plan. Incase something happens car breaks down etc.

You will have bad days but stay on these boarRAB it will help you.

Lori
 
Yes, I started down this road the same way Erie did -- was prescribed Perc for pain after surgery. First an extra dose made me nauseous....but then I noticed I was no longer sick PLUS had a bundle of energy. The things I hate the most are how irritable I am, especially if I need my dose, how my personality has changed, and how I can't make any plans without working around the drug. For example, I'd like to move away from this area, but then am worried I won't find a doctor who will prescribe as many Oxy as I get now. It's ruling my life and I'm sick of it. I want to be happy and carefree again. I'll just have to suck it up and deal with the back/leg pain some other way.
 
denon
im on 5/325, thanks for all your great info.
And how great you are doing!!!:wave: keep it up.
I do have one question maybe you or anyone reading can give me an example of what 10% would be for me to start tapering ... Sorry i guess i dont understand the %:dizzy: So at 10 perc 5/325 i would start by decreasing how much?
Thank you
 
so since i never tried to stop or taper im curious to know what my symptoms will or might be as i begin to taper? As im reading alot of posts im getting really nervous and keep delaying the process of tapering. Im going to try and do a slow process and really make it a journey if that makes sense as i said i do not take the meRAB for pain i take them for energy, socializing,just feel good but now that its take more and not lasting as long i beginning to fill my days around pills and imean everything its so sad. Any ideas?
Thanks
 
The opiate in vicodin is hydrocodone. The opiate in percocet is oxycodone. Oxycodone is quite a bit more powerful than hydrocodone. When you switch from taking percocet for awhile to vicodin, your body is going through withdrawals from having a lesser amount of opiates in your system. In order to taper successfully, you need to be on just one of these meRAB and then taper down in a gradually decreasing dose of that one single opiate. Your body will be going through enough trying to adjust to the lesser doseage without having to try and deal with switching back and forth between different opiates.

Hope I helped a bit!~
Lou
 
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