Neanderthal girl
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The words Ford and quality don't usually go together. But one hopes that the Swedes will not let their standards slip. But that may not happen if Volvos are built outside Sweden.
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Volvo quality under Fords control?
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Neanderthal girl
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The words Ford and quality don't usually go together. But one hopes that the Swedes will not let their standards slip. But that may not happen if Volvos are built outside Sweden.
"So do the modern Volvos still have that epic build quality?"
Not in my opinion. I've had thirteen Volvos in the last forty years (still have three) and the quality and durability Volvo became famous for is no longer there. The 940 model, discontinued in the mid-90s, was the last good one. Volvos have become over-engineered technical nightmares, very expensive to maintain and repair. My last new Volvo was a '98 and it was, to put it mildly, crap. Things broke on that car that you wouldn't expect to fail, ever. I got rid of it as soon as I could.
I don't think it has anything to do with Ford, rather just a European car company trying to make it in the American market. Volvo used to be able to do that and still put out a quality product but no more.
Not in my opinion. I've had thirteen Volvos in the last forty years (still have three) and the quality and durability Volvo became famous for is no longer there. The 940 model, discontinued in the mid-90s, was the last good one. Volvos have become over-engineered technical nightmares, very expensive to maintain and repair. My last new Volvo was a '98 and it was, to put it mildly, crap. Things broke on that car that you wouldn't expect to fail, ever. I got rid of it as soon as I could.
I don't think it has anything to do with Ford, rather just a European car company trying to make it in the American market. Volvo used to be able to do that and still put out a quality product but no more.
Volvo's quality has gone wayyy down, but it's coming back up now.
I have a 67 Volvo, and everywhere I go people say "you cant kill an old Volvo", and it's true. They had the red engines that went FOREVER!
There's a 1966 Volvo with the worlds highest mileage (2.6 million miles AND COUNTING!).
The 850 was really the last of the good Volvo's.
The S/V70 series starting having the cheap stuff put into them. The 5cylinder engines are very good, so are the trannys.
Then, the S80 was a product of Ford. And they're horrible. As beautiful as they are, they're no good. Transmissions last about 60k (it's a GM tranny, they should've just stuck with AW), the engines are still very good. The bodies are still safe. But the electrical system is a nightmare. And trust me, it's WICKED expensive.
You get into year 2005, and the S80 is perfected. Read the reviews, it took Ford 6 years to work out kinks but the 05+ S80s are excellent.
But the XC90 in 2005 was still bad. The T6 model especially. They still had crappy transmissions which I think were fixed by 07.
But Volvo's current line up of cars has had really good quality. The reviews on the S80 in 2007 are better than the Accord for 07 (Edmund's.com). People love the new ones. They're a lot of money, but hey, a BMW is $10k more, and current Volvo's are less to own than a BMW. Have you seen the new S80? And the XC60? They're starting to look like Volvo's again! Not Fords!
For a while Volvo's quality and reliability suffered but Volvo is pretty much all set now.
I have a 67 Volvo, and everywhere I go people say "you cant kill an old Volvo", and it's true. They had the red engines that went FOREVER!
There's a 1966 Volvo with the worlds highest mileage (2.6 million miles AND COUNTING!).
The 850 was really the last of the good Volvo's.
The S/V70 series starting having the cheap stuff put into them. The 5cylinder engines are very good, so are the trannys.
Then, the S80 was a product of Ford. And they're horrible. As beautiful as they are, they're no good. Transmissions last about 60k (it's a GM tranny, they should've just stuck with AW), the engines are still very good. The bodies are still safe. But the electrical system is a nightmare. And trust me, it's WICKED expensive.
You get into year 2005, and the S80 is perfected. Read the reviews, it took Ford 6 years to work out kinks but the 05+ S80s are excellent.
But the XC90 in 2005 was still bad. The T6 model especially. They still had crappy transmissions which I think were fixed by 07.
But Volvo's current line up of cars has had really good quality. The reviews on the S80 in 2007 are better than the Accord for 07 (Edmund's.com). People love the new ones. They're a lot of money, but hey, a BMW is $10k more, and current Volvo's are less to own than a BMW. Have you seen the new S80? And the XC60? They're starting to look like Volvo's again! Not Fords!
For a while Volvo's quality and reliability suffered but Volvo is pretty much all set now.
Hello.
Just out of curiosity, I was wondering if Volvo's build quality is still as good as it used to be, now being under Ford's control. I believe only a few parts come from Ford, including the chassis.
The older Volvos like the 200/700 series could easily do 300k miles before the engine gave up.
So do the modern Volvos still have that epic build quality?
Cheers.
Just out of curiosity, I was wondering if Volvo's build quality is still as good as it used to be, now being under Ford's control. I believe only a few parts come from Ford, including the chassis.
The older Volvos like the 200/700 series could easily do 300k miles before the engine gave up.
So do the modern Volvos still have that epic build quality?
Cheers.
Volvo's quality has gone wayyy down, but it's coming back up now.
I have a 67 Volvo, and everywhere I go people say "you cant kill an old Volvo", and it's true. They had the red engines that went FOREVER!
There's a 1966 Volvo with the worlds highest mileage (2.6 million miles AND COUNTING!).
The 850 was really the last of the good Volvo's.
The S/V70 series starting having the cheap stuff put into them. The 5cylinder engines are very good, so are the trannys.
Then, the S80 was a product of Ford. And they're horrible. As beautiful as they are, they're no good. Transmissions last about 60k (it's a GM tranny, they should've just stuck with AW), the engines are still very good. The bodies are still safe. But the electrical system is a nightmare. And trust me, it's WICKED expensive.
You get into year 2005, and the S80 is perfected. Read the reviews, it took Ford 6 years to work out kinks but the 05+ S80s are excellent.
But the XC90 in 2005 was still bad. The T6 model especially. They still had crappy transmissions which I think were fixed by 07.
But Volvo's current line up of cars has had really good quality. The reviews on the S80 in 2007 are better than the Accord for 07 (Edmund's.com). People love the new ones. They're a lot of money, but hey, a BMW is $10k more, and current Volvo's are less to own than a BMW. Have you seen the new S80? And the XC60? They're starting to look like Volvo's again! Not Fords!
For a while Volvo's quality and reliability suffered but Volvo is pretty much all set now.
I have a 67 Volvo, and everywhere I go people say "you cant kill an old Volvo", and it's true. They had the red engines that went FOREVER!
There's a 1966 Volvo with the worlds highest mileage (2.6 million miles AND COUNTING!).
The 850 was really the last of the good Volvo's.
The S/V70 series starting having the cheap stuff put into them. The 5cylinder engines are very good, so are the trannys.
Then, the S80 was a product of Ford. And they're horrible. As beautiful as they are, they're no good. Transmissions last about 60k (it's a GM tranny, they should've just stuck with AW), the engines are still very good. The bodies are still safe. But the electrical system is a nightmare. And trust me, it's WICKED expensive.
You get into year 2005, and the S80 is perfected. Read the reviews, it took Ford 6 years to work out kinks but the 05+ S80s are excellent.
But the XC90 in 2005 was still bad. The T6 model especially. They still had crappy transmissions which I think were fixed by 07.
But Volvo's current line up of cars has had really good quality. The reviews on the S80 in 2007 are better than the Accord for 07 (Edmund's.com). People love the new ones. They're a lot of money, but hey, a BMW is $10k more, and current Volvo's are less to own than a BMW. Have you seen the new S80? And the XC60? They're starting to look like Volvo's again! Not Fords!
For a while Volvo's quality and reliability suffered but Volvo is pretty much all set now.
"So do the modern Volvos still have that epic build quality?"
Not in my opinion. I've had thirteen Volvos in the last forty years (still have three) and the quality and durability Volvo became famous for is no longer there. The 940 model, discontinued in the mid-90s, was the last good one. Volvos have become over-engineered technical nightmares, very expensive to maintain and repair. My last new Volvo was a '98 and it was, to put it mildly, crap. Things broke on that car that you wouldn't expect to fail, ever. I got rid of it as soon as I could.
I don't think it has anything to do with Ford, rather just a European car company trying to make it in the American market. Volvo used to be able to do that and still put out a quality product but no more.
Not in my opinion. I've had thirteen Volvos in the last forty years (still have three) and the quality and durability Volvo became famous for is no longer there. The 940 model, discontinued in the mid-90s, was the last good one. Volvos have become over-engineered technical nightmares, very expensive to maintain and repair. My last new Volvo was a '98 and it was, to put it mildly, crap. Things broke on that car that you wouldn't expect to fail, ever. I got rid of it as soon as I could.
I don't think it has anything to do with Ford, rather just a European car company trying to make it in the American market. Volvo used to be able to do that and still put out a quality product but no more.