Villains that turned good but shouldn't have

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What villains that either permentely or for temperally turned good and worked with the hero(s) to fight the greater evil, that you didn't want to see?

Characters that you feel should never be good.

For me, the end of season 4 of Teen Titans, when Slade worked with the Titans to stop Trigon, and the part I didn't like the most was after they stopped Trigon, it seemed that the Titans were hoping it would stay good and be a little forgiving, after all Slade did to them the first two seasons, all the physical and mental anquish he put them through, he not only was an evil villains wanting to destroy Jump City, but also an a**hole, for them to let bygones be bygones, I didn't like that.

I am a person who loves redemption stories, of characters start out on the bad side, and eventully turn good, but some characters shouldn't be redemed, characters like Slade should always be on the side of evil.
 
Star Scream Transformers Armada. This is Starscream the biggest back stabber in the biz and him going good and befriending kids not cool.
 
Because that guy was just Starscream in the DUB. In the original he was a brand new character that was designed with Starscream in mind.
 
Here's a few that I know that don't want to be good:

Roger Klotz(Doug) - He turned good on the episode where he saved Doug from the bully Percy but will still be bad to pick on him.
Quackerjack/Megavolt(Darkwing Duck) - They turned good in the episode with Darkwarrior Duck to help the good guys stop him in the other world before finding a way back home, poor villains.
Skeletor(He-Man) - In the Sh-Gora & Evil Seed episodes when he had no choice to team up with He-Man before wanting to destroy him.
Queen Slug-For-A-Butt(Earthworm Jim) - She had no choice but to team up with E.Jim to stop Psy-Crow & the Professor for taking over her throne, one of my favorite episodes ever.
Shego(KP) - My favorite villain, but had no choice in the Avarius/Warmonga episodes and will always destroy Kim.
Big Weed(The Snorks) - In an episode, he had no choice but to team up with Allstar to take care of an evil Snork Genie before being bad to get him again.
Eric Cartman(South Park) - don't know if he counts, which he's usually on the good side at times, but will always be evil mostly.
 
Is it the same thing with Slade, he was forced to help the Titans. But still make me cringe to see that. I hate that guy.

As for Shego, someone else brought up the events of "Stop Team Go", I don't really count that, that was not the real Shego, she was under mind control, I let her slide.
 
I remember seeing a bit of "The New Adventures of Voltron" many years back (what was I thinking?) and they had Lotor contemplating turning good.

I'm sorry, what? What? LOTOR?

Just no.

In fact that reminds me, in that bad CGI Voltron show they made Zarkon good and right hand man to that lame robot. Except of course he wasn't actually good, and was up to evil deeds the whole time. Gosh, I bet nobody saw THAT coming.
 
Xanatos in 'The Goliath Chronicles'. The Gargoyles #1 foe turns TOTALLY good? I don't buy that. He had to have something cooking behind their backs.
 
Is there a list topic you don't have something to add to? To be honest, none of those are really villains turning good. They're villains teaming up briefly with their respective foes in order to remove something that threatens both of them.
 
Helping the hero with a common threat doesn't mean they're considering to turn over a new leaf. Tough times call for tough choices. Infact, the original plans for Season 5 would include an episode where Slade would end up taking over the Brotherhood.

Villains/antagonists that actually turned good and stayed there:
Dingo (Gargoyles)
Rubberband Man (Static Shock)
Amazo (Justice League Unlimited)
Tohru (Jackie Chan Adventures)
Ken (Digimon Zero Two)
Sun Riders (Super Robot Monkey Team Hyper Force Go)

Several of Phobos' servants on W.I.T.C.H. deflected towards the Guardians.
 
Well even for one day, I don't want Slade to be on the side of good. I hate him for all he has done. To have to relie on him, it just wrong. Slade should have the leader of the Brotherhood Of Evil, not that brain guy. I wish they didn't change that.
 
Shego turning good wouldn't be too bad, obviously if it were to happen it wouldn't be like softening up, but being a good guy with an edge.
 
If I can put my creative fan fic writing hat on, I think characters that start off as bad, and turn good and to be accepted, the keys are:

1) As to be planned out for the beginning. Turn someone from bad to good on the fly are the worst kinds of redemption, because it is not beleveable.

2) Tone down the villains badness, show that the character won't go to far, or at least show remourse he or she does go to far, don't make the villain too evil, that we want them dead. The audience has to feel that this person ain't satin from the beginning.

3) While not required, establishing a sympathic backstory doesn't hurt

I hate to keep going back to my choice, but he is my choice, but number 2 applies to Slade.
 
I actually liked these characters better as good guys. Iago wasn't squeaky-clean, even on the side of the angels. He added a nice twist of lemon to the sweetness of the rest of the Aladdin gang. And Tohru I just plain liked better as a hero.
 
I disagree, to an extent. A villain can start out evil as sin, but still acceptably become a good guy as long as there is an interem period in which the character starts to go through some sort of period of internal struggle or remorse for what they've done.
 
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