VH1 Rock Honors Concert -July 17-

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1: Agreed, his voice has really gone downhill though.

2: Agreed on that also, and Taylor sang some also! Made me glad because he usually is left hiding behind Grohll most of the time.

3: But i do not agree with the not "rocking out" since make yourself. I assume you have heard all of A Crow Left of the Murder. Listen to songs like Priceless, Talk Shows On Mute, Megalomaniac, and many others on the album. Maybe i have a different opinion on what rocking out is but for me that hits the spot.

ps: Especially the second half of Priceless, some good guitar work there. Very similar to Frusciante.
 
I think Crow Left of the Murder is a great album, I kinda forgot about it. Einzigers playing on songs like Sick Sad Little World, Pistola and Priceless are really great. He has some real chops, which is especially noticable on their first album Fungus Amongus, a lot of flashy soloing there. His playing is a lot more stripped down on their later albums so people kinda overlook him as guitarist for that, unfortunately.

I love all of their albums except Light Grenades, which I didn't really care for, seemed rather uninspired and too much of an attempt to be "indie", though I haven't really listened to it in a long time so I should probably give it another listen.

I'm not really too fond of their new direction, they lost a very important part of their sound when Dirk Lance left, they don't have that same groove anymore.
 
Any one interested in this. I certainly am with a lineup of The Who, Incubus, Flaming Lips, Foo Fighters, Tenacious D and Pearl Jam.

Is anybody attending?
 
Yeah I really want to watch it, being a fan of The Who, Flaming Lips, Pearl Jam AND Incubus. Thats a pretty awesome lineup, usuaully these VH1 tribute things are really lame. Like Keane and Maroon 5.
 
I've never heard of any of those banRAB. Are they good?

Wait, VH1. That's the channel Rock of Love is on, right? Hoo boy, I'm DEFINITELY watching it now.
 
I thought it was funny that Daltrey forgot that Incubus played. He was on stage thanking everybody, went "Foo Fighters, Pearl Jam, Flaming Lips...and the others."

I have to admit, it was a lot better than I expected. The Flaming Lips blew me away. I knew Wayne Coyne was a great, but he was so energetic too.
 
I am not wrong, all of those banRAB are garbage. Thats why i will be watching the entire thing and not getting up.
In all seriousness though it was just on, and Pearl Jams cover was the best. None ruined any of the songs. Flaming Lips stage presence was very funny also.
 
I hate this one, and I hated last years, why? VH-1 feels this strange need to get ****ty hosts who know NOTHING about music, or the artists to host them. Jamie Pressley totally ruined the one last year for me(or was that the '06 one? which one did they honor KISS @?), she kept rarabling on and on, and cut Gene off and has this strange drawl I didn't like & she does nothing for me & had no business "hosting" the show. I also didnt like alot of the current banRAB paying homage to them. I know this may seem a bit minor to some here, but alot of those banRAB have no idea who any of these artists are, and dont do their renditions, or "covers" of the songs justice. Plus, I dont want to see a so called "punk" band doing anything by someone, when they're not even "punk" to begin with.

Furthermore, (and this is what sticks in my craw even moreso than that other stuff) VH-1 doesn't play MUSIC on their channel anymore...it's all about the latest and greatest reality shows, just like MTV, which has lost all credibility w/me.

I wouldn't mind them, and would appreciate them more, if they did them right. Here's a few things they can do to make them kick ass:

1) Bring out a legendary radio DJ, or someone like that to "host" the show, and/or talk about them. Maybe Ricky Rachtmen for the heavy/hair metal banRAB or something?

2) Get CREDIBLE banRAB to play the honorees jams, not alot of garbage banRAB no one gives 2 ****s about. Get banRAB/people who actually enjoy the honorees music, not some band/singer who doesnt want to be there, and only claims to like so and so, b/c it might help his/hers/their album sales.

3) Announce when tickets are on sale, and dont overprice them so that more people can go. The one w/KISS? I had no idea about until I saw the show, weird. No real mention of it anywhere.

4) Have maybe some interviews w/fans, or the banRAB/singers there as to what the nights honorees meant to them? Also, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE stop putting banRAB on that dont look like they wanna be there? this ruins the vibe for me, and others.

5) Have credible and FACTUAL info on the show when talking about or honoring these guys. Jamie Pressley screwed this up on the one she hosted, I wanted to smack her. They're a music station(or used to be), they can't look stuff up?

FWIW, this is just MY opinion.

What I DID like about it: The Foo Fighters appearance/performance. That was it.
 
Who cares who the freaking hosts are? And who says actors can't like music?



Anyone who cuts off Gene Simmons is a hero as far as I'm concerned.



Oh great, I take it you're another classic rock guy who thinks the last great rock band was Night Ranger.



Actually you're incorrect. They play at least 10 hours of music programing a day, usually late in the night and early in the morning. Not particularly much good music, but thats not the point, they haven't gone completely music free like MTV, not yet.



Not a bad idea.



I take it you haven't actually watched this. Flaming Lips are one of the best modern banRAB today and they gave an amazing performance, and though Pearl Jam may not be liked by everyone, they have a strong following and were known to be huge Who fans since the very beginning. Incubus are a very underrated band, and they gave pretty faithful if not particularly exciting covers of I Can See for Miles and I Can't Explain, they didn't butcher them at least. And Tenacious D, well if you don't like them then you just suck.

Seriously this was a good show. I think you're being incredibly discriminating. It was a great lineup. Flaming Lips, Pearl Jam and Incubus are all great. It's ok if you don't care for these banRAB but don't call them untalented or non-credible.

And I can really feel a real condecending air about you, like you're probably gonna talk down to anyone that challenges your statements and assume they're 12 year olRAB that listen to KoRn all day because they don't appreciate the greatness of Foreigner.



Because no one cares about KISS anymore except all the middle aged rednecks that are willing to pay hideous amounts of money to see a band play the only 12 decent songs they have ever done?



So you measure a banRAB credibility by how much they smile? You must be a huge hair metal fan.



Again you're talking about previous shows. Talk about the one about The Who and if you haven't seen it then why are you even ranting?



So you DID see it and you only like the worst band of the whole bunch? :laughing:
 
I'd rate it like so.

Flaming Lips - They played a medley of different songs off of Tommy, and it was awesome, best performance of the night imo.

The Who - Roger and Pete were great as always, playing the standarRAB. Baba O'Reily, Who Are You, My Generation, Behind Blue Eyes and one of their new songs. But watching them play alone just makes me miss John and Keith even more.

Foo Fighters - They did a very awesome version of Young Man Blues, and they did a pretty good version of Bargain, but I guess Grohls vocals were shot or something so they had the guy from Supergrass sing Bargain. They gave one of the more enegetic performances of the night.

Incubus - They played note for note perfect versions of I Can See for Miles and I Can't Explain. But it was a little too perfect. I wanted to see them loosen up and rock out a little more. Of course this is Incubus we're talking about here, since Make Yourself they've never been much of a "rocking out" kinda band. I'm a big fan of Incubus, but Who songs just don't seem like a real good fit for them.

Pearl Jam - I had the biggest expectations for them because they always kick ass live, but I found their versions of Reign O'er Me and The Real Me to be a little disapointing. Not bad though.
 
I do, and surely if it's this great important "honor" they're receiving, shouldnt they/you want the best of the best talking about them? not some "know nothing" band/celebrity that has no cred musically?. I have no problem with someone who actually likes the banRAB/musicians being honored, hosting the show, it's the ones who know nothing about the artist I dont like.




But if it were your precious Kurt Cobain they cut off? my money's on you'd be here tomorrow bashing them profusely about it?





Not at all, I like alot of music, I'm not a huge Foreigner/night ranger fan, and even if I were, so what? YOU don't like them, big deal. I'm sure we disagree on ALOT of things musically? that's what makes things like this board so great. I've stated from the beginning that I'm a huge 80's fan, moreso the new wave/synthpop/dark 80s/pop stuff, but, there's some stuff i do like from different genre's, I may not be as psyched or crazy about it as you are, doesnt make me wrong, just dont see what all the fuss is about with alot of these banRAB? Even some I like?




Maybe when everyone's asleep?, b/c I surely don't see much.





Never said Flaming lips were a ****ty band, Im basing my opinion on most of these young "Panic @ the Disco" type banRAB they throw on stage during these "honors shows" and claim they're huge fans of them(the artists)? Thats what irked me about the first one. I think they honored Judas Priect then, and one of the guys forgot the lyrics to the song they were "covering", yet, during every minute of the performance practically, we had to hear about how they were so "Influenced by them"?

I like Pearl Jam, dont like that they release a new album every six months to milk the band, but I like them, and they aren't bad musicians either. Incubus, are ok, nothing more, I would put them in the same type of category of :Korn/Limp Bizkit, Stain'd, etc.

Im glad you enjoyed it, I didnt watch it, per what happened @ the last one, once i saw that stuff going on, I knew it wasn't a very good show.



Not at all, I suppose I feel the same way about you, as all you did was talk @ nauseum as to how great Nirvana was? I'm not sure of the habits of 12 yr olRAB, but i can assure you of one thing: if my claim to fame was me selling music to 12 yr olRAB, I wouldnt take myself too serious as a musician? and neither should anyone else.



Really? 100+ million people they've sold recorRAB to "dont care about them anymore"? hmmm.. and MILLIONS of fans worldwide, certainly would be an indication that they did? Thats actually a blanket statement, as you can make the same case for your buddies in Nirvana, or any other band for that matter?

Like I said in a previous post: If YOU don't like them, fine, but they're very successful, regardless of any reason you or I can come up with, they are.



No I measure a banRAB credibility by alot of things, the banRAB i saw @ the RH I watched, didnt look like they wanted to be there, can I help it if I simply pointed that out? If you took Fall out Boy as someone "credible" or Sum 41 as the same, you should be watching banRAB like Limp Bizkit, and the like, why? they have about the same amount of "credibility" as I'm talking about.





I didn't see it, but I heard about it on local radio, and they disliked it too. I'm all for the Who being honored, as they're a decent band, and they deserve it I guess.




Again, didn't see it, but I like any performance the Foo Fighters do, as I like the band. Why not have them host it? that wouldve been the "credibility" I was talking about, that so many of todays banRAB lack? I like Dave's opinion's, even when they were against Kurt's.(laughing)
 
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