U.S shock at gay scene with Carrey and McGreggor

I don't recall the sex scene in Brokeback Mountain being particularly graphic. Or was there another scene I don't remember? :confused:

The scene I'm thinking of was in the tent - and while the sex was particularly rough, I would hardly call it graphic. Ten-second sex, with only a glimpse of upper butt-cheek -nothing more.
 
Brokeback Mountain only had a very limited release though from what I remember. I remember some folks had a long drive to see it or wait for the DVD. And there was a lot of backlash against Jake Gyllenhaal & Heath Ledger who were very well known, but still establishing themselves, saying it would be the end of their careers.

Personally I didn't find it that explicit at all, but often the vocal minority who voice their dislike for something, often give the film more publicity and make more want to see it to see what the fuss is.

I do think though that on the whole the UK/Europe has a reputation for being more tolerant/open minded on certain issues in films.
 
Its entertainment to show highly violent slasher films and nobody bats an eyelid, but two men having a "make believe" sex scene causes all hell to break loose.

"Make Love Not War" :D is my moto

If an audience doesnt like the film they don't have to watch it
 
Eh? No there wasn't.

Straight women will enjoy watching this film, as will gay and bisexual/bicurious men AND some non-uptight, comfortable-in-their-sexuality straight men - that's a majority of the population! So they shouldn't worry about it not being popular on the basis of it being a m/m lovestory. Besides, Brokeback Mountain was extremely successful with straight men and women (my straight male friend went to see it twice and thought it a very well-acted and touching love story) so this "uproar" is just flogging a dead horse.

It's all good. :D
 
I think that's what they're worried about.

...and the consensus seems to be that the American Audience (generally speaking) might possibly be a tad more prudish (particularly when it comes to homosexuality) than others.

Mind you... I'm not entirely sure it would do that much better in the UK.
 
yup, don't be a tool. this is the first i heard of this film for instance:P

when you are marketing a comedy getting an R rating tenRAB to make things financially difficult.

not to mention jim carreys pretty much lost his box office opening ability, he hasn't had a hit in quite a while.

the american version of queer as folk was no less explicit.

whether main stream audiences want to see guys going at it is another matter. its not free, you pay to watch this stuff
 
I watched America's next top model yesterday and the task was to pose in a red light district brothel window in the NetherlanRAB.

The girls reactions, from what I remember, were similar to that expressed at the gay statue during some superbowl ad and this film mentioned here. It was all "we'll be sitting where prostitutes sit", "prostitution is legal here?", "this is very controversial".

I wouldn't say it was all Americans, just like I wouldn't say all Brits are more tolerant, but it does seem that the vocal majority of the US are more uptight than the vocal majority of the United Kingdom. I don't recall many, if any, Doctor Who and Torchwood complaints about their gay kisses and the latter's references to gay sex. But there are some here who are equally uptight I guess, look at the complaints about the EastEnders gay kiss, okay there weren't many, but there were some. But I guess, they were a very small minority, whereas the minority who complain in the US seem to make up a larger percentage and are definitely more vocal.
 
I don't think it would overly effect it's UK box office performance. A bit yes, but not to the point where our film council would reject it. What you have to remember when people say "we're just the same" or "we're nearly as bad" is, we can't be. Only about 40% percent of Brits are religious, I'm pretty sure it's over 80%, and it's religious people that make the most noise about things like this.
 
it had as much release as many small films. sure if you live in hicksville theres going to be issues watching any indi films ni the theater. where theres a larger population concentration there are theaters even by chains like century theaters cinearts http://www.cinemark.com/cinearts.asp catering to indi film audiences.

backlash against ledger and the other guy? bullsh*t, outside hicksville no one cared. in fact it only increased their fame, esp for ledger who wasn't really known very well before it, he landed the joker after it. so the idea that he would be blacklisted or unviable after being "gay " for a film is nonsense.

and for explicitness, it was a full 2 hours of gay, thats about as explicit as it gets unless you want to get porny about it.

pointing to a vocal minority is stupid. theres a vocal minority in the us that complains about harry potter as well. what does that mean? look at the box office numbers and book sales. it means jacksh*t.
 
Would our film council ever reject film purely on the basis of potential box-office loss though? One of their policies is to build diversity and inclusion in film anyway... so that may well take priority over pure economic issues. Which is no bad thing.
 
The gay and lesbian community go watch movies where heterosexual sex is thrown in their faces whether it is called for in the movie or not, you get one comedy (I agree BBM only got away with it because it was meant to be arty and measured by a different yard stick) with a gay sex scene and it is deemed to be crossing a line. It really is pathetic.
 
well there you go, you watch americas top model and you think you know america. contestants on that show are chosen because they are entertaining idiots, a bit like jade goody. like the jerry springer show watching it tells you very little, and only makes you an idiot if you generalize from it.

lol as for brit audiences, look at russell brand and jonathan ross getting in trouble. the busy bodies are busy there as well. its just that the bbc is far more "pc" in bending over backwarRAB to cater to a very small minority audience.

its also why you have so many shows with unfunny women comedians on in the uk i guess. fill the quota.
 
Oh... I don't disagree with that necessarily... but I do think that many within the GBP are still "prudish" enough to make a point of avoiding a film featuring an explicit gay sex scene which doesn't mean that everyone who would make a point of doing that is vocally homophobic... or even religious.
 
I heard it's supposed to be at the beginning of the film, so it's not like they would be walking away from the cinema with an erection. And as for BBM it wasn't graphic at all, they weren't even naked :rolleyes:
 
It seems kind of stupid that things like a gay scene in a movie can still cause controversy these American Religious groups need to have their power taken off them,
 
They should 'erect' (ho ho) a gargantuan drive-in screen directly opposite the Westboro Baptist commune and show this scene on an unending loop.
 
But it's not causing controversy. Just because a tiny minority shout really loudly don't mean their views are representative of the wider population.
 
But if the distribution companies feel they have to pussyfoot around those few shouting loud the result will be same as if there was a big controversy. If they are told that nobody will go to see it because of that scene they can either take a risk or play it safe. But perhaps it's just a publicity controversy so that the people go see what the fuss was about after the film will be bravely distributed with the scene in.
 
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