Two-Face's turn is everything Anakin's should have been...

CVJX

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I know, Dark Night and Episode III or nowhere near each other in terms of quality of movies but the way Two-Face was setup, how he was created and what he turned into were everything I envisioned should have been for Anakin.

I can understand Two-Face's turn, it's tragic and understandable... Anakin's is laughable.
 
I beg to differ. I felt it was on the same level almost as I never felt the characters truly were pushed over the brink. Not to the level of madness or evil they eventually portray at least.

Granted the movie couldn't spend the time, but I felt there should've been this collapse of everything around him. Stripping him of his sense of self-worth, pride, love etc. I wanted to watch him be broken down and fall down a downward spiral of sanity to the point where he pushes back.

Sorta like the movie Falling Down. You feel the pressure just building & building until the breaking point happens. If they had used the rest of the movie to show Harvey have everything he worked for & loved start to erode and then at the end he becomes the new villian to lead the 3rd movie I felt it would've worked better. Instead it felt like he was rushed into suddenly going mad.
 
Thinking back on how The Joker set the whole thing up was pure genius. Even how the Joker wanted Batman to kill him just to corrupt the uncorrupted.


They could of spent more time...for the slow kids out there but the movie was almost 3 hours long already. Who wouldnt be pissed of if there girl died and half your face melted off...they really need to explain that to you?
 
They don't need to explain it. I wanted to see him descend into the split-personality character he becomes. He was all nice guy until losing his dumpy broad.
 
He didn't just lose her... Batman came to save him, not her. He had to listen to her die. Not to mention, she was an innocent bystander to their plot to lure the joker out to the open.
He told Gordon his cops were corrupt and due to Gordon's inactivity, they led them to doom. Doom I say! So there goes his faith in what's good and Justice. It gets them nowhere.
 
I think people are still used to the "feel good" bad guys. This Joker was anything but that. The Joker knew Batman was going to pick the girl and was totally fucking with Batman and Harvey Dent.
 
That's what was great about the Joker. He knew Batman and how he would react. He told the gangster's Mr. TV wasn't safe in Tokyo, he knows how Batman will react to a situation.
 
the gangsters just weren't thinking ahead and Joker just understood something they didn't pick up on..that batman is at his core...crazy...(the man runs around dressed like a flying rodent for crying out loud..lol) which makes him a bit unpredictable to a straight thinking person which is why the joker identified and kinda empathizes with him..theyre both kind of kindred spirits at least thats how joker sees it. And hes' not a officer of the law bound by jurisdiction laws. Understanding all that..joker could see the hole in their thinking a mile away.
 
Everything about the writing and direction of the new Star Wars was trash so this is like saying shit should have been pink like flowers if it wanted to be prettier.
 
The greatness of Dark Knight really opens my eyes to how downright awful recent 'blockbuster' movies have been. It even made Iron Man rather laughable and I loved it when I first saw it.
 
You're way off there.

Anakin's turn highlighted the reality that good people can go bad even while trying to do good.

Two Face's turn was pretty shallow and unrealistic.
 
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