Top-50 All-time (Rough Draft)

I think its safe to say Animal Farms was an influence if they're talking about the same subject with the same imagery, which is something you completely skipped over and I can find several instances of fans saying that, shit there was several instances in the google link that you dismissed off as 'hearsay' (the links included rockhall, wikipedia, amazon, etc).

Aside from that how you can go and dismiss something like what I posted as hearsay then cite the fans as a reason it wasn't based off Animal Farm I don't understand.
 
I'm not ready to give up on this Green Day thing. I think History will be kind to them and I don't understand why everyone hates them so much. Say what you will they are popular as all hell among fans of several genres and nobody is apathetic about them, the illicit strong feelings in most cases. Regardless S&G need to be on this list I think.
 
Styx is no where to be found on the list, James Brown was on the list and is still in the consideration section. I threw them on the original rough draft near the bottom as filler because while they have some enjoyable music they are not a top 50 band and would be an easy boot when I am reminded of a band I excluded.
 
I think the only reason this thread has lasted as long as it has is because the original poster seems to go from it being a list of the most successful rock banRAB one minute to a list of his favourites the next.

I mean are Pearl Jam really the 5th best artist to come out of the U.S. ever? :laughing:
 
Yeah, I can't really claim to be a bigger Zep fanboy than you.

Oh well. I still have the title of biggest Pink Floyd, King Crimson and Yes fanboy. For the time being.



Well Zeppelin didn't invent hard rock as much as they made it harder. The Who, Cream and Hendrix had the blue prints, Zeppelin just expanded upon their ideas, made it heavier, sexier and more theatrical. Still, Zeppelin shouldn't be given all the credit for heavy metal, no way. Sabbath are obviously more important in that respect, and other banRAB like Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, UFO, Blue Oyster Cult, Thin Lizzy, AC/DC and to some extent even Queen have made important contrubitons to the heavy metal sound, though you could say that Zep paved the way for them.

The Beatles however, have layed out blueprints for almost every sub-genre of rock music. Including Psychedelic rock (Revolver), Prog (Sgt Pepper, Magical Mystery Tour) and Metal (Helter Skelter, I Want You).



Yeah, Ob-La-Di, Ob-La-Da and Yellow Submarine is more grating than anything Zeppelin have ever done.

But The Beatles never had a bad studio album. Zeppelin had In Through The Out Door, which aside from In The Evening was pretty mediocre.



Zeppelin are more revered by musicians, The Beatles are more revered by songwriters.



But most awarRAB sources in music suck, thats what I'm saying.

Creed won a Grammy for goodness sake.



My bad.




But its confusing. I can't tell if you're trying to do an unbiased greatness list (which you implied by including artists you don't even like) or a personal preference list. You can't have your cake and eat it too, its either one or the other.
 
1984>You. Anyway, RABOTM is hardly boring or generic, with funk-inspired songs like Money, to instrumentals like Any Colour You Like. Just because you find prog boring doesn't mean it's bad. Powerful lyrics, sound effects, and liberal use of female backing vocals make RABOTM an amazing spacy feel.
 
Most recent Updates to my Top 50
(remeraber to check the first post for an updated list when commenting on placement)

1. Led Zeppelin
2. The Beatles
3. The Rolling Stones
4. Jimi Hendrix
5. The Who
6. Bob Dylan
7. Eric Clapton
8. Stevie Wonder
9. Van Morrison
10. Queen
11. Rage Against the Machine
12. Nirvana
13. Pearl Jam
14. Pink Floyd
15. Green Day
16. Incubus
17. Metallica
18. Creedence Clearwater Revival
19. The Grateful Dead
20. The Beach Boys
21. The Allman Brothers Band
22. Bob Marley
23. Chuck Berry
24. Johnny Cash
25. Janis Joplin
26. Elvis Presley
27. The Doors
28. CSNY
29. The Police
30. System of a Down
31. Elvis Costello
32. Aretha Franklin
33. 311
34. David Bowie
35. Black Sabbath
36. Roy Orbison
37. B.B. King
38. Velvet Underground
39. Lynyrd Skynyrd
40. Rakim
41. The Clash
42. Boston
43. Genesis
44. The Eagles
45. Marvin ***e
46. Ray Charles
47. Tupac
48. Yes
49. Bad Company
50. Sublime
 
I guess the Clash can be the pure punk representative, so you could drop the Ramones. They're hardly as talented as S&G.
 
I'm not saying they suck , i'm saying they've only had any impact in a few countries. Plenty of banRAB have sold millions in Europe , Australia & Japan yet are not on that list because they never broke North America.So why should a band who have done the opposite (IE broke North America yet little anywhere else) be on there
 
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I'm pointing out that other fans agree with what i'm saying. It's not the absolute fact, i'm providing a link that backs up my theory (through fans admittedly). I over reacted to your statement for which I apologise.

Yes there is a link with Animal Farm which I have ignored/ not noticed to my own detriment, however; it is still not BASED on Animal Farm it uses the novels structure as a rant about British class systems, that's all.
 
Come to think of it, if we were to do rock AND pop. Putting Michael Jackson above Led Zeppelin would make sense. Especially if you're gonna make such a big whoop about record sales.



Grandma. :D

And their music has stood the test of time. Thats why both are still pop culture icons till' this day.

Without them there would be No Beatles, No Rolling Stones, No Who, No Zep.
No nothing.



Well I'm talking about greatness. And you still can't even make up your mind on what kind of list you're trying to make.

Also The Immortals list had Zep above Lewis. It was an ok list, the top 50 was good, but the bottom 50 just pissed me off, it was pretty biased and random. Having Eminem and AC/DC above Miles Davis is just lame. And of course Pink Floyd were completely screwed over. And for who? Nine Inch f*cking Nails. Give me a break.



I never said they should be above Bob Dylan.

And also the lack of mainstream success dosen't decrease their greatness. VU&N sold poorly, but just about everyone who bought it ended up starting a band of their own. Few banRAB inspired people like VU did at the time. Even if their albums aren't sellers, their influence is HUGE.



Not if such a short discography stanRAB the test of time and still influences songwriters till this day.



Thank ya.
 
You missed what I meant you said "So the major publisher knew what Waters was thinking?", that isn't relevant, and serves no purposes. The major publishers aren't the ones writing the book.
 
Straigh Outta Compton is an incredible album, its unfair to discredit it just because it influenced terrible artists, and the gangsta rap genre WAS original when NWA started doing it.

Thats like faulting the Beatles because Justim Tiraberlake lists them as an influence.
 
---Green Day- Has been a relevant headline act for over 10 years. Five Huge selling albums, two Grammy winners, and a top notch live act on the scale of the Who. To me a no-brainer for the top 50 and maybe the best, most successful band of the decade.--

They are still sht though.
 
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