Toon Zone Talkback - Fred Seibert: Today's Toons "Dull as Dishwater"

I guess he has a right to complain. To this day, Nick still hasn't run a single episode of his "Random Cartoons."

The talent is out there, and Fred knows how to find it. Last time the networks cared about showcasing talent, they made millions. They should, y'know, think about it again.
 
I was able to read the article no problem. To add to what was in the TZ article in case anyone else gets a registration page, Fred is confident that Adventure Time, which premiered on Random Cartoons, will become a series before the end of 2008.

For the record, I agree with Fred on the state of modern cartoons and pilots.
 
Fred Seibert is a wiser man than I. He certainly has a point in regards to where animation is currently going, which is somewhat predictable giving that most industries go in cycles.

I applaud him for what he's trying to do with Next New Networks and think he's right in believing that it will pay off.

And yes, let's see some Random! Cartoons, soon.
 
Fred's kind of right on this one. With Danny Phantom and Kim Possible gone and Foster's and Avatar on their last legs I have very little to look forward to in American Animation right now.
 
And that's canceled, mercifully.

Imagining Krypto the Superdog as the be-all, end-all of TV animation is cause for me to be afraid, be very afraid. :eek:
 
We must be in trouble then... that show was rank!!!! There's no room for growth and developement, and as long as moronic tweencoms rule the airwaves, cartoons will be as pathetic as "My Gym Partner's a Monkey! Boogers! Poopie! Pinapple!" where the title is a lot funnier than anything else they came up with.

The best cartoons are for adults right now, and even still... most of them have gotten repetitive, or otherwise sank in quality. American Dad and South Park might well be the best things on television.

And of course there's no room for growth. Not one of these trust fund 20 something network execs want to take risks. they want instant success, dispite the fact when a show has instant success, it usually flops instantly. They want the next Spongebob? They wouldn't let Spongebob get past 2 seasons nowadays. Sad, sad, sad thing animation has become.
 
I will say "dull as dishwater" almost seems like a compliment. Most cartoons I see today are depressing. not even just annoying. Depressing. No one wants to try anymore, and they yeild that result. There are some choice bits... but too far and few between.
 
Maybe so, but I find a lot of these critics have are big on complaints but short on answers. I wonder if they have any answers to the issue at hand.

The US animation industry is in a creative slump (outsourcing and other issues are seperate problems) but no one addresses exactly how they're supposed to close the gap with Europe and Asia.
 
That, the shrinking children's TV market, and the rise of live action kid's shows seem to be the biggest problems of the day. I'd love for all thse animation head people to pool their resources together and make a true animation channel.
 
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