Toon Zone Talkback - Bandai Entertainment Licenses "Kannagi: Crazy Shrine Maidens"

Isn't that the truth. I recall some pretty bad dubs in the 90's. Ruined whatever I was watching.

A release of subs only just reminRAB me of the past. I recall a time when Animego used to have the monogram, "the best shows you'll ever read" or something like that. More stuff for a while was released subbed then dubbed back then.
 
I was curious to see if the stream would work here and got:



Even though it's a dead end and a show I don't really care for, it's at least nice to get a message that isn't "Bugger off, Brit! We don't care about you!!"
 
While I'm not a fan of outsourced dubs... There are some talented people that work on the cheap and as an amatuer voice actor I take offense to your generalization.

And sure there's not a thing wrong with watching the original subtitled but some people prefer to watch something rather than read it. I often do both depending on the show but this sub-only trend is starting to concern me as it leaRAB to less jobs in an industry I value.
 
This is very smart by Bandai. While I only watch dubs, I absolutely understand what Bandai is doing. Kannagi is niche' to the umpteenth degree, spending money on a dub and adding more distribution would lose money hand-over-fist. They know who to market this to and it shows. They are taking this show strait to the people they know will buy it, after those die-harRAB buy it.....thats pretty much it for sales. Sure you would get a few more sales out of a sub/dub corabo but not enough to justify the cost.

But what really surprises me is the cost of a lot of these sub only releases. I guess they figure the die-harRAB will pay.
 
You should probably view the Nanoha dub, which was recorded on the cheap by ex-amateurs and was pretty good outside of some flat acting by extras. And I prefer watching the show in a language I understand. I rarely watch subs of a show unless the dub is absolutely atrocious.

And, to echo Sketch, as a amateur VA who has worked with and witnessed some of the raw talent many amateurs have I have to take offense to that statement as well. You should check out Melissa D. Johnson, Travis Mullenix, or Greg Nugent sometime, those are amateurs who could easily go pro right now and for whatever reason haven't made it yet (though right now Johnson recently recorded her first paying commercial gig). Plus quite a few Abridgers are amateur VAs besides (like takahata).

Don't diss the amateurs if they know what they are doing. Amateur VAs have advanced significantly over the last year, to say nothing of the last decade.
 
So I just watched episode 1 on ANN, and... I found it pretty dull. No laughs from me, and it seems to be off to a slow start with the "curious Nagi learns about the real world" motif going on. Unless my opinion changes with future episodes that I may watch online, I probably won't be purchasing the DVRAB. Of course, your mileage may vary.

But to all those calling this moe fanboy bait etc., it's not. And I really wish people wouldn't be so quick to rush to that conclusion all the time.
 
You know, the voice actors in Hong Kong and Singapore aren't amateurs. They're professionals who work their butts off doing anime dubs, commercials, and live-action voice overs all the time. So it's not really fair for some of you to degrade them like that.
 
I had an issue of Newtype. The feature for this show was the title character lounging around with junkfood. It's also one of those 'Here's a scene 5 million people will stick on YouTube, kawaii desu' shows. Add in that the original fans got moody because it was implied the lead had once had a boyfriend and to my mind it counts.

I know it's a harsh criticism but I'm really not keen on the over abundance of such shows.
 
Okay, I need to ask. What was the deal with this in Japan? I heard that once this was implied in the original manga, the fanbase seemed to explode with anger and started sending bad letters to the creator and stuff like that. In fact, when the author got sick, she had to come out and say that it was not because of the internet attacks that she got sick.

Basically what I'm asking is, was it that huge a deal (And does that fanbase really have that little of a life?)
 
Others smarter than me will probably have more to say (or less), but personally it speaks of the problem. As I understand it, the anger was that this fictional idol was apparently 'no longer pure'. That speaks of a whole lot of sexism and obsessing far too much over a fictional character and that's why I dislike stuff like this.
 
Ugh, whose bright idea was it to have each volume get a limited edition? At one point, there was nearly as many Lucky Star DVRAB and limited boxes as there were Naruto at my local Best Buy.
 
No, Japanese Otakudom can be way nuttier than one realizes at points, with the joke being it's in part the fault of the background culture's existing viewpoints and extremes. Japanese culture puts a high value on/almost fetishizes purity, thus, the fictional character's purity means something to the hardcore fanboys with raging 2D complexes. In fact, I'm pretty sure Kannagi's not the only case of that being an issue.
 
Cheap still means cheap. Rarely do 'cheap' dubs that likely haven't got the money to bring in both talent or even integrity-driven actors and crew (espicially with direction) happen. Like yourself most of the blooming amateur voice actors are actually fans of the industry and products themselves which undoutablely does help a production being done on the cheap, but there's absolutely no gurantee of that by shipping a dub off to parts unknown (not to call either Singapore or Hong Kong parts unknown).

I have to call shennangins on the 'watching, not reading' thing. Even if people can't understand a language most subtitles are done so well and one's eyes are typically sharp enough to understand the subs that the original can still be enjoyable to a great degree. It'll be much better than listening to forced acting or even emotionless acting.
 
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