Tool - 10,000 Days

I don't actually like tool, but that's beside the point. A friend of mine went to their concert a couple of days ago and came back disappointed.
He said The singer stayed right up the back of the stage for the entire concert as a shadow. Maw.
 
How does saying something is 'marginally just about alright' hating on something?

He could have easily said it was about as appealing as a festering dog turd.
I would have.
 
What? You're happy going to a light/visuals show?
I can buy a live cd, some fancy lights and a computer program to make them run pretty.
I'd prefer to see the band play and sing.
The music and the energy of the band should easily outweigh the energy of a light/visuals show.
 
See, what I'm saying is that Tool are purportedly deeply philosophical. MJK writes stuff under the guide of it being profound, poignant, penetrating. If none of these pretenses existed, then there'd be little to say on the matter.
 
Yeah but the point remains you're focusing on a petty point that I threw on as an afterthought and getting all pissy over it despite the fact I later explained it.



That was a general statement that could've been applied to any band, not specifically Tool. Hence why I never once referred to any specific band.



We understand it just like we understand what is and what isn't a metaphor.
 
You're rehashing your disproven points now and throwing out petty insults. I'm obviously the two year old here. You say I need to learn to admit when I'm wrong? You're clearly tripping on your own worRAB here. You do realize I've never heard it used this way before Tool is essentially saying it's original right? I was the one who said it was cliche and I backed it up, you never disproved it in fact you added to it with the authors comment. The song is unoriginal (as you proved) and cliche (as you helped prove). I will restate my original point since both things have been proven established. The song is cliche and unoriginal, those don't make for good lyrics and lyrics, especially bad ones can't be the saving grace for a song.
 
I've heard Maynard does that, apparently he plays on the idea that many people go for the experience and not primarily to watch him sing, besides, half the time you can't even see him that well anyway, what with all their dark lights and crap.
In contrast, a mate of mine went to the Big Day Out over here in NZ, not really being into Tool all that much and he came back blown away by their performance and completely in love. Keenan proabably wasn't singing from the back of the set for this one though, haha.
 
Once again, I said now that you've explained why you felt it filler, that is all ****in' fine and dandy. And once again, I will say, YOU SHOULD HAVE ****IN' SAID IT IN THE FIRST POST. Did you get that?
But no really, answer me. Why bother posting here to begin with? You haven't bothered posting in this over a year old thread yet, and when you did, it was just to knock the band without providing any reason as to why. (Which you did later, and quite well I might add, so let's both drop the ****.) It is getting quite old.
 
It isnt implied that it is your opinion just because its a post on a message board. Thats like saying my opinion is implied just because I said something. Its irrelevant whether your typing it or saying it, or whatever.

Also, something being cliche isn't neccessarily a fact either. For instance, one might think that "break up", emo, songs are cliche however someone who's going through a breakup may not.
 
That's the first time I've heard that viewpoint. Personally I think Lateralus is crammed with great rocker after great rocker. Up until the trilogy at the end which isn't particularly enthralling at all (Triad is quite menacing though, it sounRAB like some mad war dance. I appreciate it for that quality).
 
It talks about Eden in the first verse, that is all. I never said it was copyrighted, you said no artist had done it before. That is incorrect and I corrected you.



I said it, it's implied it's my opinion.



Not true, cliche has a set definition when something meets that definition it's cliche.
 
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